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J-DraGoNz
post Jul 13 2005, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE - stephinika
please stop with the raps with only the point to diss one another. thanks.

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QUOTE - AkaRyux
It's not that he's actually dissing Jason; it's just not necessary to make these stupid "raps". If they wanted to joke with each other, they could just do it in private because people like DJ are just littering the writing forum with this annoying shit. Other people who made Jason dissing raps had their topics closed. I don't see why this hasn't been closed yet.

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Okay, I don't see why you have to close these threads. Just because you don't appreciate a part of hip hop for what it is (not all but some of you) doesn't necessarily give you the right to just close down threads and attack people for doing something they enjoy. Battling is a part of rapping and the hip hop culture. How can you not consider a "rap" writing? Lots of lyrics have many aspects of poetry such as metaphors and alliteration and multi-syllable rhyme schemes. If you guys dislike it soooooo much, why don't you atleast bring another sub forum for it. If not, this malfeasance has got to stop. I know im a new member and all and I know that there are already people who don't like me and most of you don't know me but shit, hip hop is something I love so why should I or anyone else be stifled from presenting hip hop in lyrical writing or battle tracks?


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xquizit
post Jul 14 2005, 08:58 PM
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No. Putting the Rap Battle threads in the Humor or Game forums would be an insult. stubborn.gif I'd much rather keep them in the Writing forum.



How about this, next time you create a Rap Battle thread, add some rules and a disclaimer. One of the rules should be that members are not to post in the thread unless they're participating. This is to prevent the "oh, he's such a loser" posts that are considered to be member bashing. The disclaimer should warn participants that insults and member bashing will be involved and that they shouldn't take offense. When two people agree to battle, they must agree to these terms.
 
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post Jul 14 2005, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(xquizit @ Jul 14 2005, 8:58 PM)
The disclaimer should warn participants that insults and member bashing will be involved and that they shouldn't take offense. When two people agree to battle, they must agree to these terms.
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But Roxanne, even if the two agree to their own madeup terms, the community guidelines state that no member bashing is allowed. Are we to tolerate the bashing if people involved do not take offense to it? What I mean is, are we making this an exception?
 
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post Jul 14 2005, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 14 2005, 8:49 PM)
But Roxanne, even if the two agree to their own madeup terms, the community guidelines state that no member bashing is allowed. Are we to tolerate the bashing if people involved do not take offense to it? What I mean is, are we making this an exception?
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So then would a playful insulting comment towards another member in any other thread constitute as member bashing as well? Both parties know it is a joke but spectators might think you are bashing. I see it happen all the time.
 
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post Jul 14 2005, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(basick @ Jul 14 2005, 10:55 PM)
So then would a playful insulting comment towards another member in any other thread constitute as member bashing as well? Both parties know it is a joke but spectators might think you are bashing. I see it happen all the time.
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QUOTE(xquizit @ Jul 14 2005, 11:00 PM)
You're right. But both parties can agree to take it as lighthearted fun as James put it.
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But playful bashing doesn't take a whole thread. If that kind of thread exists, then you know as well as I do that it's closed, with the exception of the member hate thread because that is strictly monitored.

As you can see, not only is there a "diss" one, but a "diss two" thread exist for the sole purpose of "battling", which is a form of member bashing. If I happen to start bashing Justin by making a thread, and say that we're just having a friendly battle, wouldn't that be closed? I mean:

1) it's a waste of space
2) it's pointless thread wasting
3) it may contain obscenity
4) it would be bashing

all of which are against the community guidelines, as you can see. Maybe I'm just not understanding this very well.
 
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post Jul 14 2005, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 14 2005, 10:00 PM)
But playful bashing doesn't take a whole thread. If that kind of thread exists, then you know as well as I do that it's closed, with the exception of the member hate thread because that is strictly monitored.

As you can see, not only is there a "diss" one, but a "diss two" thread exist for the sole purpose of "battling", which is a form of member bashing. If I happen to start bashing Justin by making a thread, and say that we're just having a friendly battle, wouldn't that be closed? I mean:

1) it's a waste of space
2) it's pointless thread wasting
3) it may contain obscenity
4) it would be bashing

all of which are against the community guidelines, as you can see.
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I know I said I'd back off, but I'm back anyway because there's nothing else to do. DJ and Jason on this occasion, did agree via AIM that they were going to do this. So it wouldn't be member bashing with DJ and Jason exchanging disses. I'm against the whole rap battling idea for the reason that someone could make it about another person without having consent and say it was a joke.

Doesn't CB have infinite space? And the writing forum doesn't have too many topics anyway. Same goes for "thread wasting".

But I agree with you on the obscenity part. Maybe we should make a precaution that they can't be too offensive or can't contain ethnic slurs, etc?
 
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post Jul 14 2005, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(AkaRyux @ Jul 14 2005, 11:05 PM)
I know I said I'd back off, but I'm back anyway because there's nothing else to do. DJ and Jason on this occasion, did agree via AIM that they were going to do this. So it wouldn't be member bashing with DJ and Jason exchanging disses. I'm against the whole rap battling idea for the reason that someone could make it about another person without having consent and say it was a joke.

Doesn't CB have infinite space? And the writing forum doesn't have too many topics anyway. Same goes for "thread wasting".
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I'm sorry, I didn't mean a waste of space because that's the same as threadwasting. But here:

NO POINTLESS THREADWASTING
This includes topics like 'I'm bored', "LOOK AT MY NEW PICS" or "do u love me"
Also topics whose sole intent is to insult someone will be deleted/closed
These forums are for discussion, not attention seeking.
Any topic considered to be a threadwaste will be deleted/closed

As you can see in the red, these two topics are violating this guideline.

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But I agree with you on the obscenity part. Maybe we should make a precaution that they can't be too offensive or can't contain ethnic slurs, etc?

That's a good idea.
 

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J-DraGoNz   Whats wrong with...   Jul 13 2005, 02:25 PM
Azarel   They were closed on the grounds of member bashing....   Jul 13 2005, 02:27 PM
J-DraGoNz   ^ thats interesting since you said Stop ruining ...   Jul 13 2005, 02:35 PM
Azarel   What I posted in the threads and the reason the th...   Jul 13 2005, 02:36 PM
J-DraGoNz   QUOTE(Azarel @ Jul 13 2005, 12:36 PM)bashing ...   Jul 13 2005, 03:17 PM
Azarel   QUOTE(J-DraGoNz @ Jul 13 2005, 1:17 PM)Y...   Jul 13 2005, 03:25 PM
jordanriane   QUOTE(Azarel @ Jul 13 2005, 4:25 PM)--honestl...   Jul 13 2005, 03:42 PM
Azarel   QUOTE(jordanriane @ Jul 13 2005, 1:42 PM)Okay...   Jul 13 2005, 03:56 PM
basick   QUOTE(jordanriane @ Jul 13 2005, 1:42 PM)If y...   Jul 13 2005, 07:08 PM
J-DraGoNz   ^ you still haven't addressed my issues on bat...   Jul 13 2005, 02:38 PM
Azarel   QUOTE(J-DraGoNz @ Jul 13 2005, 12:38 PM)...   Jul 13 2005, 02:39 PM
J-DraGoNz   ^ That's the reason I have addressed my issues...   Jul 13 2005, 02:42 PM
kryogenix   bah, it's not member bashing. it's bashing...   Jul 13 2005, 02:43 PM
Azarel   QUOTE(J-DraGoNz @ Jul 13 2005, 12:42 PM)...   Jul 13 2005, 02:46 PM
J-DraGoNz   QUOTE(Azarel @ Jul 13 2005, 12:46 PM)I was re...   Jul 13 2005, 02:52 PM
Azarel   QUOTE(J-DraGoNz @ Jul 13 2005, 12:52 PM)...   Jul 13 2005, 03:00 PM
J-DraGoNz   ^ Well, not so off topic because I did address it ...   Jul 13 2005, 03:36 PM
Paradox of Life   How about we write rap that isn't dissing othe...   Jul 13 2005, 04:14 PM
nightmare4taki   QUOTE(AkaRyux @ Jul 13 2005, 3:14 PM) No one ...   Jul 13 2005, 06:50 PM
CrackedRearView   I think it's sad that a bunch of tasteless, sh...   Jul 13 2005, 05:41 PM
mocassinsx29   Well, it's not really member bashing if the ot...   Jul 13 2005, 07:08 PM
beautifuls0ul_x3   QUOTEIt's not funny; the idiots making dissing...   Jul 13 2005, 07:44 PM
Paradox of Life   QUOTE(beautifuls0ul_x3 @ Jul 13 2005, 6:44 PM...   Jul 13 2005, 11:44 PM
J-DraGoNz   ^ lol dang. QUOTE(AkaRyux @ Jul 13 2005, 9:...   Jul 13 2005, 11:49 PM
Paradox of Life   QUOTE(J-DraGoNz @ Jul 13 2005, 10:49 PM)...   Jul 13 2005, 11:57 PM
J-DraGoNz   QUOTE(AkaRyux @ Jul 13 2005, 9:57 PM)Oh well....   Jul 14 2005, 12:00 AM
Paradox of Life   QUOTE(J-DraGoNz @ Jul 13 2005, 11:00 PM)...   Jul 14 2005, 12:15 AM
wayne   QUOTE(AkaRyux @ Jul 13 2005, 11:57 PM)Oh well...   Jul 14 2005, 08:29 PM
CrackedRearView   I don't even have anything to say any more. S...   Jul 13 2005, 08:39 PM
De112   ha. you guys are hilarious. it's not bashing i...   Jul 13 2005, 09:10 PM
basick   I am not fond of these rap battles either, but I t...   Jul 13 2005, 11:07 PM
J-DraGoNz   ^ Weren't you the one hating on my song? o.O   Jul 13 2005, 11:38 PM
basick   QUOTE(J-DraGoNz @ Jul 13 2005, 9:38 PM)^...   Jul 14 2005, 12:06 AM
Azarel   QUOTE(basick @ Jul 13 2005, 10:06 PM)edit -...   Jul 14 2005, 12:13 AM
disco infiltrator   ^ Haha I questioned that too.. But yes, the threa...   Jul 14 2005, 12:17 AM
Paradox of Life   QUOTE(headphones @ Jul 13 2005, 11:17 PM) ^ H...   Jul 14 2005, 12:58 PM
J-DraGoNz   ^ people who battle agree to battle...so therefore...   Jul 14 2005, 12:24 AM
basick   if you are battling in real life... you are put ag...   Jul 14 2005, 12:24 AM
disco infiltrator   Obviously it's serious enough to have a thread...   Jul 14 2005, 01:01 AM
basick   i was talking to the people that said it should be...   Jul 14 2005, 01:51 AM
racoons > you   QUOTEI think it's sad that a bunch of tasteles...   Jul 14 2005, 06:22 AM
jeSs1cA   QUOTEi get the whole member bashing should be clos...   Jul 14 2005, 12:00 PM
disco infiltrator   QUOTE(MarchHare2UrAlice @ Jul 14 2005, 6:22 A...   Jul 14 2005, 12:02 PM
CrackedRearView   Exactly why I said: 'whatever'. I really ...   Jul 14 2005, 08:13 AM
racoons > you   well if something is intended as lighthearted, and...   Jul 14 2005, 12:11 PM
disco infiltrator   QUOTE(MarchHare2UrAlice @ Jul 14 2005, 12:11 ...   Jul 14 2005, 02:57 PM
beautifuls0ul_x3   http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtop...   Jul 14 2005, 12:22 PM
nightmare4taki   I am not going to lie about the situation because ...   Jul 14 2005, 12:29 PM
beautifuls0ul_x3   QUOTELook what happened because of a little joke? ...   Jul 14 2005, 01:31 PM
omg_melface   yet, if it's all in fun and games... and they ...   Jul 14 2005, 03:14 PM
disco infiltrator   Well then, like I already said, they can keep it o...   Jul 14 2005, 03:48 PM
J-DraGoNz   ^ Indeed. When you're with friends, don't ...   Jul 14 2005, 03:50 PM
disco infiltrator   Um, that's not why I'm saying it.. We jus...   Jul 14 2005, 03:57 PM
basick   QUOTE(headphones @ Jul 14 2005, 1:57 PM) To m...   Jul 14 2005, 06:55 PM
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Paradox of Life   Bah whatever. I'm backing out of this. I still...   Jul 14 2005, 05:27 PM
disco infiltrator   If the point is to humiliate and degrade someone, ...   Jul 14 2005, 07:26 PM
basick   QUOTE(headphones @ Jul 14 2005, 5:26 PM)If th...   Jul 14 2005, 08:19 PM
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basick   QUOTE(headphones @ Jul 14 2005, 6:35 PM)And a...   Jul 14 2005, 08:36 PM
basick   I apologize for wayne's stupidity.   Jul 14 2005, 08:30 PM
wayne   ^^ LMAO   Jul 14 2005, 08:30 PM
disco infiltrator   If someone actually wrote a rap that wasn't pa...   Jul 14 2005, 08:45 PM
basick   QUOTE(headphones @ Jul 14 2005, 6:45 PM)Howev...   Jul 14 2005, 08:50 PM
xquizit   No. Putting the Rap Battle threads in the Humor or...   Jul 14 2005, 08:58 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(xquizit @ Jul 14 2005, 8:58 PM)The disc...   Jul 14 2005, 10:49 PM
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