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Valerie Plame, What should be done?
*mipadi*
post Jul 4 2005, 08:53 PM
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I don't know how many of you have followed the Valerie Plame incident, but I've followed it with great interest. Basically, it starts off with this guy named Joseph Wilson, an American ambassador, who was one of the first to debunk the White House's claim that Iraq had attempted to buy "yellow-cake" uranium from Nigeria. In retaliation for his criticism, someone, who was long unidentified, revealed that Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, was an undercover CIA officer working in Nigeria. Not only is revealing the name of an undercover operative a federal felony, but this could have easily resulted in her death, and ruined her career as a CIA officer.

For a long time, the person or people who revealed her identity (in a Time article) were unidentified. Of course, the person or people had to have been high-ranking officials to even know of Plame's existence. After a long set of appeals, Time has finally agreed to release the notes of the reporter, in order to help identify the people involved in this crime.

As it turns out, the writer of the article, Matthew Cooper, had numerous contacts with many White House officials, including--ta da--Karl Rove, President Bush's chief advisor.

If Karl Rove, and/or other ranking White House officials, revealed Plame's name, this is not only a felony, but a malicious, traitorous act by White House officials. What do you feel should be done about these crimes?

(More information can be found in this MSNBC/Newsweek article.)
 
 
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*mipadi*
post Jul 12 2005, 10:30 PM
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"After two days of questions, the White House said Tuesday that President Bush continues to have confidence in Karl Rove, the presidential adviser at the center of the investigation into the leak identifying a female CIA officer.

Bush did not respond to a reporter’s question Tuesday about whether he would fire Rove, as Democrats demanded, in keeping with a June 2004 pledge to dismiss any leakers of Valerie Plame’s identity.

At a White House briefing later, spokesman Scott McClellan was pressed about Rove’s future.

"Any individual who works here at the White House has the confidence of the president. They wouldn't be working here at the White House if they didn't have the president's confidence," McClellan said." [1]


Is it time for Bush to keep his promise and fire anyone connected with the Valerie Plame incident--even if one of those involved is Karl Rove?
 
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post Jul 14 2005, 10:49 AM
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Basically, it starts off with this guy named Joseph Wilson, an American ambassador, who was one of the first to debunk the White House's claim that Iraq had attempted to buy "yellow-cake" uranium from Nigeria


False. He debunked that Iraq bought yellow cake. However, he acknowledged that Iraq was trying to buy it from Nigeria. In fact, Wilson's article was rather misleading. He was sent there to determine if Iraq was looking to buy yellow cake, but his article said that they didn't buy yellow cake. It's pretty sad that the guy couldn't set politics aside to do his job properly.

QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 12 2005, 10:30 PM)
"After two days of questions, the White House said Tuesday that President Bush continues to have confidence in Karl Rove, the presidential adviser at the center of the investigation into the leak identifying a female CIA officer.

Bush did not respond to a reporter’s question Tuesday about whether he would fire Rove, as Democrats demanded, in keeping with a June 2004 pledge to dismiss any leakers of Valerie Plame’s identity.

At a White House briefing later, spokesman Scott McClellan was pressed about Rove’s future.

"Any individual who works here at the White House has the confidence of the president. They wouldn't be working here at the White House if they didn't have the president's confidence," McClellan said." [1]


Is it time for Bush to keep his promise and fire anyone connected with the Valerie Plame incident--even if one of those involved is Karl Rove?
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I believe the only thing that has been confirmed was that Rove said that Wilson's wife helped get Wilson the job of determining the Iraqi-Nigerian connection. There was nothing about him saying she was an agent.

He hasn't been proven guilty. But if he is, he deserves to be punished.
 
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post Jul 14 2005, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 14 2005, 11:49 AM)
False. He debunked that Iraq bought yellow cake. However, he acknowledged that Iraq was trying to buy it from Nigeria. In fact, Wilson's article was rather misleading. He was sent there to determine if Iraq was looking to buy yellow cake, but his article said that they didn't buy yellow cake. It's pretty sad that the guy couldn't set politics aside to do his job properly.
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So you think it is wrong for Wilson to clarify that Iraq had been unsuccessful in buying uranium? Part of his job does not include saying that Iraq had attempted, but not succeeded, in buying uranium?

I say, Bush should fire Karl Rove, as he promised. He said that anyone who had leaked Plame's name would be removed from his administration. It's time for Bush to come through on his promise.
 

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mipadi   Valerie Plame   Jul 4 2005, 08:53 PM
not_your_average   Well, I think that we first must find out who reve...   Jul 5 2005, 11:38 AM
mipadi   It looks like Karl Rove did do some talking to the...   Jul 10 2005, 12:13 PM
Shahin   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 4 2005, 5:53 PM)If Karl Ro...   Jul 10 2005, 03:28 PM
mipadi   "After two days of questions, the White House...   Jul 12 2005, 10:30 PM
kryogenix   QUOTEBasically, it starts off with this guy named ...   Jul 14 2005, 10:49 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 14 2005, 11:49 AM)False...   Jul 14 2005, 10:58 AM
Kristinaa   Bush SHOULD fire Karl Rove. Dumbass. You don't...   Jul 14 2005, 12:17 PM
mipadi   Wilson said that Iraq didn't try to buy it.   Jul 14 2005, 12:30 PM
Kristinaa   Ok. Wilson said Iraq didn't buy it. I just wok...   Jul 15 2005, 12:48 PM
mai_z   Isn't Time also at fault for revealing this ki...   Jul 19 2005, 08:31 PM
mipadi   Certainly it's an issue of journalistic ethics...   Jul 19 2005, 11:21 PM
Kristinaa   I just heard about the 2 years ago thing on Conan....   Jul 20 2005, 01:12 AM
mipadi   "The [Senate Judiciary Committee] is consider...   Jul 20 2005, 06:38 PM
medic   I do not think this information that they got shou...   Jul 20 2005, 08:01 PM
not_your_average   QUOTEI also find it appalling that, at the same ti...   Jul 22 2005, 10:47 AM
Kristinaa   QUOTEI also find it appalling that, at the same ti...   Jul 22 2005, 12:10 PM
CrackedRearView   Rove won't get fired and he won't resign; ...   Jul 22 2005, 12:14 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Jul 22 2005, 1:14 PM)...   Jul 22 2005, 12:36 PM
Kristinaa   Just shoot him and be done with it. My god. This i...   Jul 22 2005, 12:47 PM
mipadi   It shouldn't fade out of the news. This is an ...   Jul 22 2005, 12:56 PM
Kristinaa   I wonder if Al Queda timed those bombings, as well...   Jul 22 2005, 02:13 PM
mipadi   No need to be sarcastic; I wouldn't be the lea...   Jul 22 2005, 02:16 PM
Kristinaa   *sigh* Yes. It wouldn't suprise me as well. St...   Jul 22 2005, 02:17 PM
mipadi   And the plot thickens! It looks as though d**k...   Sep 29 2005, 10:35 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(mipadi @ Sep 29 2005, 10:35 PM)And the ...   Sep 29 2005, 10:40 PM
not_your_average   UPDATE: Vice President's Chief of Staff, Lewis...   Oct 28 2005, 12:04 PM
mipadi   Evidently, George Bush authorized the intelligence...   Apr 7 2006, 02:13 PM


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