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 Jun 12 2005, 04:58 PM
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Hey guys, this might be rather controversial, I don't know how many anti-harry potterists there are out there, but heres the topic:
Is Harry Potter a moral story? Is there anything in it trying to encourage REAL whitchcraft? whaddayathink? This topic has probably already been posted, I'm just interested in people's opinions! |
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Jul 12 2005, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE (headphones @ Jul 12 2005, 8:11 AM) Ah, well yes, but I just don't understand. Lord of the Rings is about happenings in Middle Earth; things that happened before humans were here and it completely contradicts Christian belief. Plus, there's wizards in Lord of the Rings too. In all fairness, I doubt those trying to ban it have seen witchcraft being practiced either. Lord of the rings does not contradict christian belief in the slightest. J.R.R. Tolkien was a very christian man. He used many metaphors to describes events in the bible. 300 warriors against 10,000. Ten rings ten crowns. There are so many that you can't even name them all. |
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Jul 12 2005, 03:02 PM
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 dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jul 12 2005, 2:33 PM) Lord of the rings does not contradict christian belief in the slightest. J.R.R. Tolkien was a very christian man. He used many metaphors to describes events in the bible. 300 warriors against 10,000. Ten rings ten crowns. There are so many that you can't even name them all.  NO HE DID NOT he was just trying to WRITE A STORY they ASKED HIM ABOUT THAT. give me proof, in the form of a quote from him, that those are purposeful metaphors. |
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Jul 12 2005, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 12 2005, 1:02 PM) NO HE DID NOT he was just trying to WRITE A STORY they ASKED HIM ABOUT THAT. give me proof, in the form of a quote from him, that those are purposeful metaphors. QUOTE(From the Foreword @ LotR) ...As for any inner meaning or 'message,' it has in the intention of the author none. It is neither allegorical nor topical. As the froty grew it put down roots (into teh past) and threw our unexpected branches: but its main theme was setled from the outset by the inevitable choice of the Ring as the link between it and The Hobbit... However:Other arrangements could be devised acccording to the tastes or views of those who like allegory or topical refernce. But Icordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old an wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history, ture or geigned, with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of the readers. I think that many confuse 'applicability' with 'allegory;' but the one resides in the freedom of the deader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author. QUOTE(Tolkien) "The Lord of the Rings" is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work. Unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision." http://www.theonering.com/docs/10079.html
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gotblog4me? Harry Potter? From Satan?!? Jun 12 2005, 04:58 PM
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QUOT... Jun 13 2005, 12:46 AM hunnigurl01 QUOTE(crayonzUpMyNose @ Jun 12 2005, 8:43 PM)... Jul 5 2005, 04:46 AM insomniac QUOTE(hunnigurl01 @ Jul 5 2005, 3:46 AM)check... Jul 5 2005, 02:15 PM sadolakced acid voldemort is the fourth of the trinity. you shall... Jun 12 2005, 09:39 PM ghetosmurph No it isn't satanic or even encouracing witchc... Jun 12 2005, 09:41 PM gotblog4me? For the record, I dont think its bad, and witches ... Jun 12 2005, 10:06 PM MyVermilionPlague ^ Well, that's what you think. Maybe others do... Jun 13 2005, 12:40 AM gotblog4me? QUOTE(Despise @ Jun 13 2005, 1:40 AM)^ Well, ... Jun 13 2005, 11:30 AM BrandonSaunders If HP is satanic devil worship then I'd rather... Jun 13 2005, 01:21 AM MyVermilionPlague QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Jun 13 2005, 1:21 AM)... Jun 13 2005, 01:32 AM not_for_anything Well, it depends whos morals were talking about, c... Jun 13 2005, 11:13 AM sammi rules you ^ you might wanna look at the wicca and paganism t... Jun 13 2005, 01:11 PM gotblog4me? QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jun 13 2005, 2:11 PM)... Jun 13 2005, 01:13 PM ..:loveee.NuTTii QUOTEyes real witches exist but they aren't fl... Jun 14 2005, 04:55 PM x____duckii QUOTE(..:loveee.NuTTii @ Jun 14 2005, 5:55 PM... Jul 11 2005, 01:43 PM sadolakced acid QUOTE(x____duckii @ Jul 11 2005, 1:43 PM)Migh... Jul 11 2005, 02:54 PM aera how would this promote satanism?
it doesnt. just ... Jun 14 2005, 05:03 PM sammi rules you QUOTE(akinachan @ Jun 14 2005, 4:03 PM)how wo... Jun 15 2005, 01:29 PM Azarel QUOTE(sammi rules you @ Jun 15 2005, 11:29 AM... Jul 11 2005, 06:56 PM disco infiltrator QUOTE(Azarel @ Jul 11 2005, 6:56 PM)A bit lat... Jul 12 2005, 10:11 AM WickedDreamer Okay, if Harry Potter is promoting witchcraft I gu... Jun 15 2005, 12:23 AM not_for_anything ^^ good point, disneys little hidden messages aren... Jun 15 2005, 10:05 AM karrar Naw, it's not from satan. Everybody knows it... Jun 15 2005, 04:54 PM enyceXaddiction QUOTE(karrar @ Jun 15 2005, 4:54 PM)Naw, it... Jul 7 2005, 04:33 PM x_angawhomps QUOTE(karrar @ Jun 15 2005, 2:54 PM)Naw, it... Jul 7 2005, 04:35 PM lbjshaq2345 from wat ive heard i dont think its satanic but it... Jun 15 2005, 05:05 PM Paradox of Life QUOTE(lbjshaq2345 @ Jun 15 2005, 4:05 PM)from... Jun 15 2005, 07:50 PM sadolakced acid QUOTE(WickedDreamer @ Jun 15 2005, 12:23 AM)O... Jun 15 2005, 05:12 PM sadolakced acid it's not just that.
if you didn't notice,... Jun 15 2005, 10:07 PM Paradox of Life QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 15 2005, 9:07 PM)... Jun 16 2005, 11:30 AM FoOd Well since Harry Potter is considered a wizard, th... Jun 15 2005, 11:53 PM TaintedDesires It's just fiction, a story that JK Rowling mad... Jun 16 2005, 01:20 PM Paradox of Life QUOTE(TaintedDesires @ Jun 16 2005, 12:20 PM)... Jun 16 2005, 05:34 PM lil_cheer_chick Hey, I like Harry Potter and all, but I don't ... Jun 16 2005, 01:25 PM gotblog4me? QUOTE(lil_cheer_chick @ Jun 16 2005, 2:25 PM)... Jun 16 2005, 02:50 PM nightmare4taki I could care less. Harry Potter is for entertainme... Jun 16 2005, 02:06 PM Frankie ha. whenever i heard that people thought that harr... Jun 16 2005, 03:05 PM karrar She still ripped of Star Wars. Jun 16 2005, 07:32 PM WickedDreamer Someone asked about LOTR up there, supposably it h... Jun 18 2005, 12:27 AM sikdragon The ignorance does not lie in the anti-harry potte... Jun 18 2005, 05:43 AM sammi rules you ^ i think it's ironic that you say how ignoran... Jun 18 2005, 04:11 PM Paradox of Life QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jun 18 2005, 3:11 PM)... Jun 19 2005, 12:49 AM slipper i seriously bet this harry being evil thing starte... Jun 18 2005, 08:50 PM sadolakced acid QUOTE(WickedDreamer @ Jun 18 2005, 12:27 AM)S... Jun 18 2005, 09:25 PM Individualityy You guys..Harry potter is ENTERTAINMENT..
..It... Jun 19 2005, 11:40 AM sadolakced acid sikdragon, you have made me see the light.
i... Jun 19 2005, 10:52 PM sikdragon I never said harry was evil. I love the books. I s... Jun 20 2005, 11:43 PM sadolakced acid QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 20 2005, 11:43 PM)I nev... Jun 21 2005, 12:16 AM sikdragon Islam isn't worshipping satan. As long as they... Jun 21 2005, 12:22 AM sadolakced acid QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 12:22 AM)Islam... Jun 21 2005, 12:29 AM sikdragon I do not believe that.
Jesus is God. "For G... Jun 21 2005, 01:01 AM sammi rules you well just because you don't believe it doesn... Jun 21 2005, 11:19 AM tofuburger ..i never really thought about it like that..i dou... Jun 21 2005, 02:41 PM sikdragon QUOTEwell just because you don't believe it do... Jun 21 2005, 07:28 PM andriaalazing* haha it may be about witches or whatever, but it i... Jun 21 2005, 11:12 PM sadolakced acid QUOTE(andriaalazing* @ Jun 21 2005, 11:12 PM)... Jun 21 2005, 11:48 PM SillyCourtney Well, this has been said a hundred times, but it... Jun 22 2005, 01:43 PM sikdragon Look at the google ad sense at the bottom of the p... Jun 22 2005, 03:13 PM mocassinsx29 Wtf, hell no. J.K. Rowling was trying to show how ... Jun 22 2005, 05:41 PM sikdragon are you arguing with the topic or someone in parti... Jun 22 2005, 08:54 PM sw33t_rouge are school is a christian academy..so nope were no... Jun 23 2005, 11:30 PM vehvih QUOTE(sw33t_rouge @ Jun 23 2005, 9:30 PM)are ... Jul 7 2005, 04:21 PM sammi rules you err it is but it's just entertainment Jun 24 2005, 12:46 AM xsweetxcandyx i've read all the books that are out
nothing t... Jun 24 2005, 05:36 PM emazing I don't think Harry Potter is trying to promot... Jun 24 2005, 06:02 PM insomniac harry potter saves people from evil. Its just an i... Jun 29 2005, 05:52 PM xXgWenZilLaXx wiccans dont believe in satan. get it straight Jul 2 2005, 03:35 PM sadolakced acid the title of the next harry potter book indicates ... Jul 5 2005, 07:21 PM disco infiltrator QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 5 2005, 7:21 PM)t... Jul 8 2005, 11:56 PM KERP1UNK i have read almost every post in this entire threa... Jul 5 2005, 11:35 PM niez_cho I believe in God and I read Harry Potter.
Can any... Jul 7 2005, 02:55 AM persephones I can see how people would think of Harry Potter a... Jul 8 2005, 08:21 PM sadolakced acid QUOTEThe error returned was:
Flood control is ena... Jul 8 2005, 11:18 PM rinygrin 1. There's a BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN White Magi... Jul 9 2005, 12:11 AM xlauren73x no way! If you say take away harry potter beca... Jul 9 2005, 11:57 PM rinygrin Besides: Pratically anything 'magical' or ... Jul 10 2005, 09:08 AM The_must_die I agree that it isn't satanic.I've read th... Jul 10 2005, 02:58 PM sadolakced acid QUOTE(The_must_die @ Jul 10 2005, 2:58 PM)I a... Jul 10 2005, 03:03 PM rinygrin QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 10 2005, 1:03 PM)... Jul 10 2005, 05:34 PM sadolakced acid QUOTE(rinygrin @ Jul 10 2005, 5:34 PM)lol yah... Jul 10 2005, 08:55 PM x____duckii ^ So eating food is considered Satanic? Jul 11 2005, 06:02 PM sadolakced acid QUOTE(x____duckii @ Jul 11 2005, 6:02 PM)^ So... Jul 11 2005, 07:34 PM xlauren73x people connect santanism and witchcraft because th... Jul 12 2005, 12:02 AM sadolakced acid QUOTE(xlauren73x @ Jul 12 2005, 12:02 AM)peop... Jul 12 2005, 01:31 AM [Mediocre]Artist Harry Potter isn't Satanic. Its a fun way to ... Jul 12 2005, 10:15 AM Biblesterr743 oh my gosh.... people interpret things too serious... Jul 12 2005, 10:15 AM Azarel QUOTE(headphones @ Jul 12 2005, 8:11 AM)Ah, w... Jul 12 2005, 01:46 PM Hell-Rell The media hates to see something go so well. Harry... Jul 12 2005, 02:42 PM lakerfever2476 I don't see too many people beginning witchcra... Jul 12 2005, 03:12 PM Azarel QUOTE(reolistic @ Jul 12 2005, 12:42 PM)The m... Jul 12 2005, 03:14 PM sadolakced acid LOTRs can't be christian...
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