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The value of life
tkproduce
post May 13 2004, 04:25 PM
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A lot of debates seemed to be based on this, so I thought I might make a new topic out of it.

Obviously, life is a valuable thing. But how valuable is it to you? Different people have different opinions.

Say this kid at a school has somehow managed to pick up a fatal disease - maybe something like ebola, but worse. If he is not killed in the next 10 minutes, the disease is contagious enough to infect everyone in the school. You're a doctor with a needle in your hand and you are given the responsibility of making the decision of whether or not to kill this kid. What would you do?

Okay, a very unrealistic situation, but it is slightly similar to other situations. Like the war in Iraq. Do you think the lives of some are worth sacrificing for the welfare of others? The debate about abortion. Letting every foetus with a potential for life to live on, wanted or unwanted, may seem ideal to you, but looking at the big picture, I can see overpopulation and poverty.

So how much do you value individual life?
 
 
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post Jul 12 2005, 10:46 AM
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This isn't a real dilemma. (Based on the scenario that started the thread.)
Killing the host of the virus won't contain the rate of infection. The whole area needs to be quarrantined and decontaminated. Killing the kid in 10 minutes won't change anything. The likelihood of infection is based on proximity to the carrier. Isolation, sterilization and education are the most effective ways to contain an outbreak.
 
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post Jul 12 2005, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(illumineering @ Jul 12 2005, 10:46 AM)
This isn't a real dilemma.  (Based on the scenario that started the thread.)
Killing the host of the virus won't contain the rate of infection.  The whole area needs to be quarrantined and decontaminated.  Killing the kid in 10 minutes won't change anything.  The likelihood of infection is based on proximity to the carrier.  Isolation, sterilization and education are the most effective ways to contain an outbreak.
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No, it's not a real dilemma. It was just a made-up example. It was just for you to answer on what would you do.. not really to be taken seriously.

But yes, I would kill the child. No reason to infect others.

As for abortion.. I'm with you. Give a lady a choice for crying out loud! This world is already so overpopulated, why have another baby you can't take care of or that you don't want? AND, if you don't want the baby and you have to keep it, you're not exactly going to love it and take care of it. This will definetly hurt the child's self-esteem and self-value. And who would want that?
 
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post Jul 12 2005, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(SillyCourtney @ Jul 12 2005, 10:09 AM)
No, it's not a real dilemma. It was just a made-up example. It was just for you to answer on what would you do.. not really to be taken seriously.

But yes, I would kill the child. No reason to infect others.

As for abortion.. I'm with you. Give a lady a choice for crying out loud! This world is already so overpopulated, why have another baby you can't take care of or that you don't want? AND, if you don't want the baby and you have to keep it, you're not exactly going to love it and take care of it. This will definetly hurt the child's self-esteem and self-value. And who would want that?
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worthy.gif I was afraid you'd start saying "BUT IT'S MURDER!!"

Anyway, how is this about life value? How much value in life can a kid have when he's a safety threat to everyone around him and his last option is to die? Um, is it not obvious? Kill the kid so you can save everyone else and end his misery. I have value in my own life; perhaps less than others, but there are things in life that I value and wouldn't want to give up. I think I'm getting sidetracked now. How's this a debate?
 

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tkproduce   The value of life   May 13 2004, 04:25 PM
Spirited Away   I value my own life.. but that's an incredibly...   May 13 2004, 04:29 PM
Kathleen   Well...the kid would die anyways...it sounds mean ...   May 13 2004, 04:34 PM
Angel_Cece   QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 13 2004, 4:34 PM)Well......   May 7 2005, 11:19 PM
instantmusic   For the kid, they have those um, big bubble rooms ...   May 13 2004, 04:36 PM
CJ1   I dunno for the kid. For Iraq however, that's ...   May 13 2004, 05:49 PM
WildGriffin   "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of ...   May 13 2004, 05:54 PM
Kathleen   Yeah, but he's going to die anyways...besides....   May 13 2004, 06:01 PM
instantmusic   haha, omg. um. well i guess everyone forgot. de...   May 13 2004, 06:15 PM
kryogenix   let's see. you get life for free. but your bir...   May 13 2004, 06:19 PM
strice   "A single death is a tragedy, a million is ju...   May 13 2004, 06:20 PM
jewishbabeygirl87   QUOTE(tkproduce @ May 13 2004, 5:25 PM)A lot ...   May 13 2004, 07:06 PM
Winter   If the kid's gonna die soon, you don't hav...   May 14 2004, 06:18 AM
tkproduce   QUOTE(strice @ May 13 2004, 11:20 PM)"A ...   May 14 2004, 06:59 AM
ROARxD   since this kid is going to die either way; would ...   May 7 2005, 10:19 PM
rOckThISshYt   Either way the could would wind up dead.. In the n...   May 7 2005, 11:18 PM
ardck830   kill the kid???   May 15 2005, 01:16 PM
sadolakced acid   i believe it is 2 million dollars or so now...   May 15 2005, 08:46 PM
sikdragon   the needs of the many out weigh the needs of the f...   May 15 2005, 09:06 PM
not_for_anything   I would kill him because hes going to die anyway, ...   Jun 9 2005, 01:35 PM
lickthepavement   i personally would kill the kid. and as for the so...   Jun 12 2005, 11:38 PM
TaintedDesires   I would kill the kid. She/He will die eventually a...   Jun 16 2005, 02:02 PM
sikdragon   Quarantine. Geez, you guys are heartless. the I...   Jun 21 2005, 12:24 AM
RiddleMeWonders   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 12:24 AM)Quara...   Jun 21 2005, 04:50 PM
sikdragon   Not just him but those that get infected along the...   Jun 21 2005, 06:37 PM
andriaalazing*   well der, i value life. my own and others. but if ...   Jun 21 2005, 11:14 PM
CrazayChristian   Well...I value my life yes, but it's either yo...   Jun 22 2005, 03:15 PM
xlauren73x   if i were the boy, i would want someone to kill me...   Jul 10 2005, 12:08 AM
illumineering   This isn't a real dilemma. (Based on the scen...   Jul 12 2005, 10:46 AM
SillyCourtney   QUOTE(illumineering @ Jul 12 2005, 10:46 AM)T...   Jul 12 2005, 11:09 AM
Paradox of Life   QUOTE(SillyCourtney @ Jul 12 2005, 10:09 AM)N...   Jul 12 2005, 11:43 AM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(illumineering @ Jul 12 2005, 10:46 AM)T...   Jul 12 2005, 12:25 PM
Shahin   Right off the bat, I would kill the kid. Just like...   Jul 12 2005, 06:28 PM
illumineering   QUOTE(illumineering @ Jul 12 2005, 10:46 AM) This ...   Jul 12 2005, 07:11 PM
aznxdreamer   i think its fair that we should sacrifice one life...   Jul 16 2005, 03:53 AM
starlette   I value my own life, only for the fact that I feel...   Jul 16 2005, 03:58 AM
dao   ok... he will die anyways.. if you dont get somew...   Jul 16 2005, 04:04 AM
starlette   QUOTE(dao @ Jul 16 2005, 4:04 AM)ok... he wil...   Jul 16 2005, 04:08 AM
Weird addiction   1. About the boy...i wouldn't call it killing....   Jul 16 2005, 09:51 AM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(sandra6645 @ Jul 16 2005, 9:51 AM)1. Ab...   Jul 16 2005, 02:02 PM
Weird addiction   ^ LMAO... believe it or not, i had a feeling someo...   Jul 17 2005, 08:13 AM
aznxdreamer   i dont think this topic is about the boy and the s...   Jul 19 2005, 07:35 AM
sadolakced acid   there's an easy way to find out. apply for li...   Jul 21 2005, 04:06 AM
anubis   i would be willing to sacrafice my own life to sav...   Jul 21 2005, 04:58 AM
nesquik   If this was a real situation, a trained doctor wou...   Jul 26 2005, 04:44 AM
Sumiaki   Egg ZackTLee I believe this debate is over.   Jul 26 2005, 05:30 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Sumiaki @ Jul 26 2005, 5:30 AM)Egg Zack...   Jul 27 2005, 06:28 PM
sikdragon   a baby isn't self aware.   Jul 27 2005, 03:07 PM


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