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Christian Propaganda
*Libertie*
post Jul 4 2005, 12:01 AM
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I used the search, so I hope this isn't a repeat thread.

Today was my church's July 4th celebration service. The pastor took this opportunity to put George W. Bush on a pedestal, slam gay marriage, condemn abortion, and basically tell us all how to vote.

He also had the audacity to tell us that everything we've ever learned in the history books is absolutely wrong, and proceeded to explain how the U.S. *really* became a nation.

He threw outrageous percentages without citing his sources (ie., he told us that 90% of Americans believe in Christianity!), he went on and on with random facts that he couldn't prove. And the congregation flocks to him, because he's the PASTOR and that means they should do anything he says.

How many pastors, conservative and liberal alike, sway a majority of their congregations into voting the way they want - no, "the way GOD wants!" - every year? And there's nothing we can do about it, because it's the pastor, and he can say whatever he wants to say as long as the congregation doesn't have a problem with it.

My question - why are people so easily swayed? Why do people believe such nonsense without being given a reason to believe it? And why do pastors take advantage of their time behind a pulpit as an opportunity to spout propaganda to thousands and thousands every year?

.:edit:. Yes, yes, another religion thread. I apologize, but I'm not making any outrageous claims, I just wanted some input before I write a letter to my pastor. :P
 
 
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post Jul 4 2005, 11:40 PM
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sadolakced acid Posted Jul 4 2005, 11:26 PM
  QUOTE(Libertie @ Jul 4 2005, 12:01 AM)

My question - why are people so easily swayed? Why do people believe such nonsense without being given a reason to believe it? And why do pastors take advantage of their time behind a pulpit as an opportunity to spout propaganda to thousands and thousands every year?


Are you saying that I am easily swayed? Pastor's aren't sprouting the "propaganda" you are thinking. They are simply reminding that the Bible DOES SAY THINGS about Homosexuality and Abortion. The reason that these people BELIEVE these things is because they have Faith. They believe that Jesus is real, and that his Teachings are worth their time and life.

now.

Why do you believe stuff that the WORLD wants you to believe. (Religion being organized and whatever. Saying Religion, in general, is crap.) Why are you so easily swayed into the Liberal (i'm guessing that you are.) ways of doing things.

Ok im going to quit posting tonight. I was working on a vexel and I would like to continue to work on it. I'll look at this later.
 
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post Jul 4 2005, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Jul 4 2005, 11:40 PM)
Are you saying that I am easily swayed?
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I don't think that's what he meant.

He's saying that what he has been saying is relevant to the topic at hand because he is answering to the topic starter's questions.
 

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Libertie   Christian Propaganda   Jul 4 2005, 12:01 AM
strice   i guess because their religion tells them that pas...   Jul 4 2005, 12:09 AM
ichigofan   because since the beginning of time man has been a...   Jul 4 2005, 12:16 AM
Libertie   That's what I thought. I don't understand ...   Jul 4 2005, 12:30 AM
sadolakced acid   the two ways to take control of a country are thro...   Jul 4 2005, 03:20 AM
starlette   wow. your pastor sounds like hes full of shit. I...   Jul 4 2005, 03:27 AM
Libertie   I've been to a few churches where the pastor i...   Jul 4 2005, 03:47 AM
kryogenix   If I recall correctly, the 1990 census said that a...   Jul 4 2005, 09:58 AM
bebopspike14   You have to understand, after the reformation, the...   Jul 4 2005, 11:05 AM
Kristinaa   QUOTEToday was my church's July 4th celebratio...   Jul 4 2005, 01:32 PM
insomniac   even though im jewish/agnostic, it is true that ab...   Jul 4 2005, 01:48 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(insomniac @ Jul 4 2005, 1:48 PM)even th...   Jul 4 2005, 10:53 PM
suddenly she   your pastor sounds a little , if you don't...   Jul 4 2005, 01:57 PM
crazymonkey1785   well, i'm a christian and at my church, they d...   Jul 4 2005, 02:50 PM
Paradox of Life   ^ Abortion and gay marriages are not right or wron...   Jul 4 2005, 03:04 PM
Kristinaa   QUOTEAbortion and gay marriages are not right or w...   Jul 4 2005, 06:39 PM
sadolakced acid   don't cite the bible. the bible is not a good...   Jul 4 2005, 07:51 PM
bebopspike14   QUOTEdon't cite the bible. the bible is not a...   Jul 4 2005, 09:02 PM
Kristinaa   QUOTEdon't cite the bible. the bible is not a...   Jul 4 2005, 09:04 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Jul 4 20...   Jul 4 2005, 10:44 PM
insomniac   ^agreed. this debate isnt about the truths or nont...   Jul 4 2005, 09:19 PM
v@por   yup I don't think any other book in the world...   Jul 4 2005, 09:21 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(v@por @ Jul 4 2005, 9:21 PM)yup I don...   Jul 4 2005, 11:27 PM
Kristinaa   If I can't site the Bible..then really there i...   Jul 4 2005, 10:20 PM
Kristinaa   Dude. You need to slam you're head up against...   Jul 4 2005, 11:01 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Jul 4 20...   Jul 4 2005, 11:10 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 4 2005, 11:10 PM)...   Jul 5 2005, 07:44 AM
Kristinaa   QUOTEand why must the bible be a source? we're...   Jul 4 2005, 11:24 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(Libertie @ Jul 4 2005, 12:01 AM)My ques...   Jul 4 2005, 11:26 PM
Kristinaa   QUOTEsadolakced acid Posted Jul 4 2005, 11:26 PM ...   Jul 4 2005, 11:40 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Jul 4 20...   Jul 4 2005, 11:44 PM
Libertie   To everyone who has started the argument over gay ...   Jul 5 2005, 06:16 AM
JlIaTMK   I find that people [from the beginning of time] ha...   Jul 4 2005, 11:49 PM
insomniac   i dont really see the point in this anymore, but h...   Jul 4 2005, 11:58 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(insomniac @ Jul 4 2005, 11:58 PM)[size=...   Jul 5 2005, 12:01 AM
Paradox of Life   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Jul 4 20...   Jul 5 2005, 12:13 AM
crazymonkey1785   if it were ok to be gay then why were the first pe...   Jul 5 2005, 12:40 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(crazymonkey1785 @ Jul 5 2005, 12:40 AM)...   Jul 5 2005, 12:43 AM
bebopspike14   QUOTEyou cited a bible quote saying that gay forni...   Jul 5 2005, 03:32 AM
Kristinaa   QUOTElet's do this in the bible thread, not he...   Jul 5 2005, 12:59 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Jul 5 20...   Jul 5 2005, 02:06 PM
Kristinaa   No. I'm saying that He is going to be doing Ch...   Jul 5 2005, 02:13 PM
insomniac   seriously... does that mean if a hindu president g...   Jul 5 2005, 02:13 PM
Kristinaa   Not everybody has to do the Christian ways of thin...   Jul 5 2005, 03:54 PM
insomniac   QUOTESo the country isn't all Christian. But a...   Jul 5 2005, 05:04 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Jul 5 20...   Jul 5 2005, 07:06 PM
sadolakced acid   double post. so shoot me. QUOTE(bebopspike14 ...   Jul 5 2005, 07:13 PM
Kristinaa   ok double post, eh, our posts are getting long. t...   Jul 5 2005, 10:03 PM
Libertie   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Jul 5 20...   Jul 6 2005, 01:51 AM
insomniac   QUOTEif we don't like it, it's why we have...   Jul 5 2005, 10:57 PM
disco infiltrator   1) i think it's funny how you love billie joe ...   Jul 5 2005, 11:02 PM
bebopspike14   QUOTEwhat if the bibles were translated by false c...   Jul 5 2005, 11:57 PM
disco infiltrator   i don't want god to have his way with my count...   Jul 6 2005, 12:19 AM
strice   just wanted to clear up that percentage thing. thi...   Jul 6 2005, 12:47 AM
lbjshaq2345   weaker ppl are the ones that r easily swayed becau...   Jul 6 2005, 01:08 AM
bebopspike14   QUOTEi don't want god to have his way with my ...   Jul 6 2005, 09:11 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(bebopspike14 @ Jul 6 2005, 9:11 AM)Too ...   Jul 6 2005, 10:17 AM
Kristinaa   QUOTEThat's what I'm saying, though! M...   Jul 6 2005, 12:38 PM
Libertie   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Jul 6 20...   Jul 6 2005, 06:18 PM
insomniac   QUOTEYes. Every day people shouldn't. But Chri...   Jul 6 2005, 12:58 PM
Kristinaa   QUOTEand why exactly, should god have his way with...   Jul 6 2005, 01:01 PM
sadolakced acid   2006, roy moore plans to run for alabama governor....   Jul 6 2005, 02:07 PM
Kristinaa   Ok. I'm willing to hear you out if I could get...   Jul 6 2005, 02:41 PM
Kristinaa   Ok. Your pastor's a d**k. He is using his ...   Jul 6 2005, 07:50 PM
Libertie   Then, we both agree that he was out of line. I jus...   Jul 7 2005, 12:09 AM
Kristinaa   That is WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY outta line. No one has...   Jul 7 2005, 12:08 PM


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