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| *Libertie* |
Jul 4 2005, 12:01 AM
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I used the search, so I hope this isn't a repeat thread.
Today was my church's July 4th celebration service. The pastor took this opportunity to put George W. Bush on a pedestal, slam gay marriage, condemn abortion, and basically tell us all how to vote. He also had the audacity to tell us that everything we've ever learned in the history books is absolutely wrong, and proceeded to explain how the U.S. *really* became a nation. He threw outrageous percentages without citing his sources (ie., he told us that 90% of Americans believe in Christianity!), he went on and on with random facts that he couldn't prove. And the congregation flocks to him, because he's the PASTOR and that means they should do anything he says. How many pastors, conservative and liberal alike, sway a majority of their congregations into voting the way they want - no, "the way GOD wants!" - every year? And there's nothing we can do about it, because it's the pastor, and he can say whatever he wants to say as long as the congregation doesn't have a problem with it. My question - why are people so easily swayed? Why do people believe such nonsense without being given a reason to believe it? And why do pastors take advantage of their time behind a pulpit as an opportunity to spout propaganda to thousands and thousands every year? .:edit:. Yes, yes, another religion thread. I apologize, but I'm not making any outrageous claims, I just wanted some input before I write a letter to my pastor. :P |
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Jul 4 2005, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE Abortion and gay marriages are not right or wrong and the bible cannot say what is right or wrong. How can the Bible not say what is right or wrong? Religions have a Bible or Torah or Koran and etc etc. Their Book is the "rules for the religion". The Bible says that those things are WRONG. QUOTE Why are people so easily swayed? I think it's a psychological reason where people want to fit in. That's why peer pressure is such an issue and people will adjust their mindsets to fit with others so they can feel like they're not alone. I'm not saying this is how it always is, but I think it's part of the reason. They see other people listening to everything the pastor says, so they think "Oh well, if the pastor and everyone else thinks abortion and gay marriages are wrong, I'm going to think so too." People are easily swayed if they believe it's true. THEIR BELIEFS. People do want to fit in, but in Church it's your beliefs that matter. In fact, being alone has nothing really to do with being swayed at all. If they believe it's true then they'll go for it. Cults are what you're thinking about. [the waco thing..etc etc.] The Pastor is actually TEACHING the Bible. You just have to listen and know what he's saying. The Bible, which is written by God's People from God, says that what the pastor was talking about is wrong and that it's great that Bush is putting a stop to it. (Gay Marriage, Abortion, etc etc.) QUOTE And like ichigofan said, if God loved you so much, he'd let you have your own opinions. Peoples' minds vary and we shouldn't be forced to think abortion is WRONG and gay marriages are WRONG. God loves us so much that he gives us a choice. To Follow his Religion and all that implies or to do what the world wants us to do. The Bible says that MURDER is wrong. MURDER = ABORTION // ABORTION = MURDER Gay Marriage = Homosexuality = QUOTE Lev 18:22- Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination. Straight from the Bible. |
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Libertie Christian Propaganda Jul 4 2005, 12:01 AM
strice i guess because their religion tells them that pas... Jul 4 2005, 12:09 AM
ichigofan because since the beginning of time man has been a... Jul 4 2005, 12:16 AM
Libertie That's what I thought. I don't understand ... Jul 4 2005, 12:30 AM
sadolakced acid the two ways to take control of a country are thro... Jul 4 2005, 03:20 AM
starlette wow. your pastor sounds like hes full of shit. I... Jul 4 2005, 03:27 AM
Libertie I've been to a few churches where the pastor i... Jul 4 2005, 03:47 AM
kryogenix If I recall correctly, the 1990 census said that a... Jul 4 2005, 09:58 AM
bebopspike14 You have to understand, after the reformation, the... Jul 4 2005, 11:05 AM
Kristinaa QUOTEToday was my church's July 4th celebratio... Jul 4 2005, 01:32 PM
insomniac even though im jewish/agnostic, it is true that ab... Jul 4 2005, 01:48 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(insomniac @ Jul 4 2005, 1:48 PM)even th... Jul 4 2005, 10:53 PM
suddenly she your pastor sounds a little , if you don't... Jul 4 2005, 01:57 PM
crazymonkey1785 well, i'm a christian and at my church, they d... Jul 4 2005, 02:50 PM
Paradox of Life ^ Abortion and gay marriages are not right or wron... Jul 4 2005, 03:04 PM
sadolakced acid don't cite the bible.
the bible is not a good... Jul 4 2005, 07:51 PM
bebopspike14 QUOTEdon't cite the bible.
the bible is not a... Jul 4 2005, 09:02 PM
Kristinaa QUOTEdon't cite the bible.
the bible is not a... Jul 4 2005, 09:04 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Jul 4 20... Jul 4 2005, 10:44 PM
insomniac ^agreed. this debate isnt about the truths or nont... Jul 4 2005, 09:19 PM
v@por yup
I don't think any other book in the world... Jul 4 2005, 09:21 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(v@por @ Jul 4 2005, 9:21 PM)yup I don... Jul 4 2005, 11:27 PM
Kristinaa If I can't site the Bible..then really there i... Jul 4 2005, 10:20 PM
Kristinaa Dude. You need to slam you're head up against... Jul 4 2005, 11:01 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Jul 4 20... Jul 4 2005, 11:10 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 4 2005, 11:10 PM)... Jul 5 2005, 07:44 AM
Kristinaa QUOTEand why must the bible be a source? we're... Jul 4 2005, 11:24 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(Libertie @ Jul 4 2005, 12:01 AM)My ques... Jul 4 2005, 11:26 PM
Kristinaa QUOTEsadolakced acid Posted Jul 4 2005, 11:26 PM
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Spirited Away QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Jul 4 20... Jul 4 2005, 11:44 PM
Libertie To everyone who has started the argument over gay ... Jul 5 2005, 06:16 AM
JlIaTMK I find that people [from the beginning of time] ha... Jul 4 2005, 11:49 PM
insomniac i dont really see the point in this anymore, but h... Jul 4 2005, 11:58 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(insomniac @ Jul 4 2005, 11:58 PM)[size=... Jul 5 2005, 12:01 AM
Paradox of Life QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Jul 4 20... Jul 5 2005, 12:13 AM
crazymonkey1785 if it were ok to be gay then why were the first pe... Jul 5 2005, 12:40 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(crazymonkey1785 @ Jul 5 2005, 12:40 AM)... Jul 5 2005, 12:43 AM
bebopspike14 QUOTEyou cited a bible quote saying that gay forni... Jul 5 2005, 03:32 AM
Kristinaa QUOTElet's do this in the bible thread, not he... Jul 5 2005, 12:59 PM
mipadi QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Jul 5 20... Jul 5 2005, 02:06 PM
Kristinaa No. I'm saying that He is going to be doing Ch... Jul 5 2005, 02:13 PM
insomniac seriously... does that mean if a hindu president g... Jul 5 2005, 02:13 PM
Kristinaa Not everybody has to do the Christian ways of thin... Jul 5 2005, 03:54 PM
insomniac QUOTESo the country isn't all Christian. But a... Jul 5 2005, 05:04 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Jul 5 20... Jul 5 2005, 07:06 PM
sadolakced acid double post. so shoot me.
QUOTE(bebopspike14 ... Jul 5 2005, 07:13 PM
Kristinaa ok
double post, eh, our posts are getting long. t... Jul 5 2005, 10:03 PM
Libertie QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Jul 5 20... Jul 6 2005, 01:51 AM
insomniac QUOTEif we don't like it, it's why we have... Jul 5 2005, 10:57 PM
disco infiltrator 1) i think it's funny how you love billie joe ... Jul 5 2005, 11:02 PM
bebopspike14 QUOTEwhat if the bibles were translated by false c... Jul 5 2005, 11:57 PM
disco infiltrator i don't want god to have his way with my count... Jul 6 2005, 12:19 AM
strice just wanted to clear up that percentage thing. thi... Jul 6 2005, 12:47 AM
lbjshaq2345 weaker ppl are the ones that r easily swayed becau... Jul 6 2005, 01:08 AM
bebopspike14 QUOTEi don't want god to have his way with my ... Jul 6 2005, 09:11 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(bebopspike14 @ Jul 6 2005, 9:11 AM)Too ... Jul 6 2005, 10:17 AM
Kristinaa QUOTEThat's what I'm saying, though! M... Jul 6 2005, 12:38 PM
Libertie QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Jul 6 20... Jul 6 2005, 06:18 PM
insomniac QUOTEYes. Every day people shouldn't. But Chri... Jul 6 2005, 12:58 PM
Kristinaa QUOTEand why exactly, should god have his way with... Jul 6 2005, 01:01 PM
sadolakced acid 2006, roy moore plans to run for alabama governor.... Jul 6 2005, 02:07 PM
Kristinaa Ok. I'm willing to hear you out if I could get... Jul 6 2005, 02:41 PM
Kristinaa Ok. Your pastor's a d**k. He is using his ... Jul 6 2005, 07:50 PM
Libertie Then, we both agree that he was out of line. I jus... Jul 7 2005, 12:09 AM
Kristinaa That is WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY outta line. No one has... Jul 7 2005, 12:08 PM![]() ![]() |