Electoral college, should it be eliminated? |
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Electoral college, should it be eliminated? |
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Should the electoral college be eliminated?
with it, a person could loose every state by 1 vote except california, and win california by a landslide and then loose the race. with it, democrats in red states feel thier vote doesn't count, and republicans in blue states feel thier vote doesn't count. if the electoral college were to be eliminated, then everyone's vote would count. |
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just becasue liberals are pissed bush got elected doesn't mean everything liberals do is because we're pissed.
think; maybe blocking bush's judicial nominations are just because they're bad? oh, so the conservative christian judge who favors christians and is more than slightly racist is a good choice for a judge? and you forgot one thing when you talk about states being thrilled. states are entirely blue or red. sectionalism is at a minimum. there is little state loyalty these days. no, we are the united states of america. singular. i'd say most everyone's loyalty is to the US first, and if they even have a loyalty to thier state, it's after that. if each state were one entity with one idea and always agreed on which candidate to vote for; then yes, the electoral college works. but it doesn't work that way. you're emphasising state's rights here. the state is more imporant than the individual. it doesn't matter that the individual vote counts shit, the state's vote counts something, so it must be good. |
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 23 2005, 11:23 PM) just becasue liberals are pissed bush got elected doesn't mean everything liberals do is because we're pissed. think; maybe blocking bush's judicial nominations are just because they're bad? oh, so the conservative christian judge who favors christians and is more than slightly racist is a good choice for a judge? and you forgot one thing when you talk about states being thrilled. states are entirely blue or red. sectionalism is at a minimum. there is little state loyalty these days. no, we are the united states of america. singular. i'd say most everyone's loyalty is to the US first, and if they even have a loyalty to thier state, it's after that. if each state were one entity with one idea and always agreed on which candidate to vote for; then yes, the electoral college works. but it doesn't work that way. you're emphasising state's rights here. the state is more imporant than the individual. it doesn't matter that the individual vote counts shit, the state's vote counts something, so it must be good. Even still, it dampens several things including over-influence and voter fraud. One that I never mentioned is quite important, too. It saved our ass, for lack of better terminology, in 2000. When you look at the election results, the popular vote played out to give Gore a win by less than one half of one percent. Even with the Electoral College, Gore relentlessly pushed for recounts in Florida. Imagine no Electoral College. If a national plurality were allowed to choose the president, and the election were as close as it was in 2000, Bush and Gore would have both realized that either of them could demand recounts and mount challenges against ballots in every precinct, in every county, in every state of the Union with the real hope of finding enough votes that the election could have been overturned. Be real. our courts would have been flooded with complaints of voter fraud, malpractice, and general chaotic claims of votes being miscounted. Without the Electoral College, you essentially have a national nightmare that would turn over our elections to lawyers and judges without a firewall. |
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