The Bible?, historical acocunt or a political agenda Options

[sadolakced acid]

we all know this book. we've at least seen it in hotel rooms. this is the book with tissue-thin pages, the book that was first printed. this is a book that people rally to.

and it is a political agenda.

in the early years of christianity, there were many, many sects that called themselves chistian. one sect decided they were the real christians, and condemned the rest as false sects.

this sect evolved into the church. In order to make all other sects wrong, they edited the bible. they threw out the parts they didn't like, added parts they liked. The bible is a manual for how to live your life- so, why not add in a bit about who you should give money to?

over the years, the bible evolved as it's editors saw fit. It was changed, in the case of the king james bible, to help conquer ireland.

It was rewritten to support values the political leaders wanted supported.

want a reason to allow slavery? put in a bit about cain and able.

want to be able to get precious farmlands in the middle east? put in a bit about that being the holy land.

the bible, it seems, is nothing more than a written propoganda tool; too far edited from it's original text to be considered anything more than a pamplet that's designed, not to ensure truth of history, and that all sides are protrayed, but to get the godless heathens to convert to christianity.


now; you can either flame me and tell me how i couldn't understand, and cite bible quotes and give me something to laugh at,
or you can prove me wrong with a bit of rational debate.

i'd enjoy it emmensly more if you'd pick the first one, although the second is nice.

have a nice day!

[sikdragon]

i'm not talking about you disbelieving it fae. I'm talking about acid's blind attacks.

and for the translation, that's very rough. to me it's, "If you won't accept my help, i can't help you." Jesus is referring to the new law. How that his sacrifice can get you to his father. According to our scripture all one needs to do is claim Jesus as their life line to be pulled back into safety. Claimed not just to men, but in front of yourself and God.

[Spirited Away]

I know I said good night, but darn it I was checking on stuff and kabammm you replied. Okay. Last comment for the night. Really.

i'm not talking about you disbelieving it fae. I'm talking about acid's blind attacks.

Oh. Well, I wouldn't call them "blind" attacks. It depends on point of view.

and for the translation, that's very rough. to me it's, "If you won't accept my help, i can't help you." Jesus is referring to the new law. How that his sacrifice can get you to his father. According to our scripture all one needs to do is claim Jesus as their life line to be pulled back into safety. Claimed not just to men, but in front of yourself and God.

I suppose you can interpret it as such, but allow me to explain how I got my translation. To do so, I will break it down. If in doing so the original meaning is lost to you, then let me know and I'll figure out another way to explain.
"Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father in heaven."
Remember how we talked about an unconditional love? Why is that God must give a condition, in the form of Jesus, for His love to be bestowed? Why must Jesus suffered for all our sins so selflessly, but demands a condition in the end? I know you're probably thinking, it's not too much to ask in turn for His sacrifice, but all I'm asking is 'why'. Why must one acknowledge Him, a condition, before being allowed to receive God's love, which is said to be unconditional? It is too contrary for me to understand.

"But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven."
Jesus died on the cross because He loved God's creation, right? If He so loved us, why is there a condition to His love? Is love meant for conditions?

Edit>> And to your translation of accepting Jesus's help.
I used to hate how my Mom would make me wear a sweater to school in the Fall, when the air is cool and breezy. She says I will catch a cold if I don't warm myself. I never listen to her but she has never a day forgot to tell me, force me, remind me to put on a sweater. I know she meant well so I don't hate the whole thing anymore, but I still don't wear a sweater just because she tells me to, and she still does it to this day.

Babies fuss when their parents put things on them, eg. beanies or socks. Though the babies fuss, the parents won't take them off, or let the child take them off, if the weather is cold.

Do you know what I mean?

This post has been edited by uninspiredfae: Jun 20 2005, 11:55 PM