Fatism, Destiny and Fate |
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![]() You can call me Jon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Duplicate Posts: 878 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 9,806 ![]() |
I don't know many people that are Fatists, people that believe in Destiny, and a set course in path and in life. It may be either they don't want to believe it, or simply don't see the benefit, or maybe they don't understand it enough about it to think that it could work.
All choices are governed by factors, by influences. These factors are cancelled, reduced, and summed to calculate the end decision. The result of the choice reacts, and causes other factors, which then influence more choice. This endless cycle of cause and effect; of factor and choice is known as Fate -- Destiny. Everything that has ever happened, happened the way it should have. There are no mistakes, simply, because Fate does not pose as a question with variation, but a statement. Fact, not opinion. Cause and effect are the only constants. All factors, when calculated out and completely influenced the sides of a decision will create the outcome. The outcome is then another choice. These factors are direct causes of choice, making variation an impossibility. This is the essence of the inevitabilty. To think of Destiny as a helplessness, a weakness of non-control, it can be thought of on the contrary. It can be a strength: to know that what you do is with purpose, with pure decision and meaning; with an ultimatum of complete solidarity. It provides us with meaning in all actions, creating every movement, sound, and touch an art form within itself. FOR MOVIE GOERS ============ Now, it might sound familiar. "Our choices are predetermined" only the "illusion of choice". Well I swear to you that there is one peice of culture that can actually explain the concept well. You've all heard of it before. Bullet-dodging, flying kicks, black leather suits and tight jackets. The Matrix. Right. I know. But they do it well. Probably the largest portion of the movie that can coincide with these things are scenes with the Merovingian, the Oracle, the Architect and Smith. Mostly in Reloaded. If you listen to them carefully, and actually try to understand what they say, it can make sense. IN A NUTSHELL Opinions? |
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![]() Bardic Nation ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,113 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 38,059 ![]() |
Wow, that's basically the christian belief, or the ideal christian belief. A lot of christians don't fully immerse themselves in their doctrine. The only difference between fatism and christianity as far as i can see is the fact that Christianity provides information about the cause. The earth is an effect, what is/was the cause? What started the chain reaction of events that have led to the present and is leading to the future. Our answer is God. Who, in my opinion, is basically like gravity. We can jump off a cliff and pretend that gravity doesn't exist, but we'll still be dragged straight down to the surface again to face the reality of injury or even death. In free fall you witness the power of gravity. Christians take a leap of faith and are falling, they feel the power of God. Gravity is always on, even when you forget about it or don't realize it. Just walking around, you're still bound by it's law. The world's fate is still decided by God's will. No nuclear weapon will completely destroy the world. Maybe a third, but that's still remains to be seen. Everything falls into place as if by chance, but nothing could be farther from the truth. When whatever scientific explanation tells of how the universe was created, what are the chances of one planet in a solar system would be the perfect distance from it's center to be able to support life? Slim to none. Nothing is luck. A toss of the dice a common referance of luck is not so much chance, but mathematical calculation. What the die lands on is decided by factors such as how it started when it was thrown, did it bounce, how far it rolled, and so many others that it could take an entire reply to name. Fate is a power right? it's mysterious. It has attributes that cannot be entirely defined by man. It has tumblers that just fall into place perfectly. I have a question, where is the key? how is it unlocked. who or what locked it? I claim this unexplained unpersonified entity as the God of Abraham and Isaac. You may not and that's fine. I'm just trying to help you understand where i'm coming from and help you better define your beliefs. It's my rather long winded attempt at the socratic method.
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