Piracy, Legal or Not? Options

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I've noticed on this forum that they shut down almost every topic that has to do with any P2P program. Its not piracy to have a P2P program, or to use it. Its the way people use it. RealPlayer records what you play and sends it to there datacenter, that invasion of privacy, why aren't they getting sued. And NO they don't ask you if you want to participate in a consumer deal, they do it on there own will. The program is made to share information, so if you find a P2P program illegal, shut down all topics about AIM, Yahoo Messenger and MSN Messenger - they all have P2P in there, you can send files through them - but for some odd reason there not considered ILLEGAL and don't get stereotyped as PIRACY. Consumers label a P2P program as Piracy, I think it is unjust. Why isn't TiVo illegal - it records movies without commercials and you can then burn them to a CD. If I wanted I could go set TiVo to make a copy of Assault on Precinct 13 on HBO or Stars and then burn it to a DVD. I didn't pay for that movie, I pay for the channel - but that still does not make it legal for me to do that. So in what ways does you downloading the same movie off a torrent site have any different effect. The RIAA and MPAA are just looking for more ways to screw consumers over.

I am doing what one of the mods said, to post it in debate - so I did. And I bet it gets shut down again.

[medic]

TiVo only gets the money when someone buys the receiver I think its 200 or 300 now. The monthly payment it to keep the upkeep for the TiVo/DVR/Digital Cable(and or dish) systems that the cable company/dish providers own. That's why Dish Network came out with the "Dish DVR" so they can get hte $200 dollars for the DVR and the $5. Now with say a movie, someone has to buy it or rent it to rip it, so in some ways they are gitting compensated. Very little at that though.

That P2P program never paid for the content it is distributing--and, in fact, since many P2P programs contain adware and advertising, they are, in effect, getting paid for that illegal distribution.

Now I have noticed that, but its done in a good way though, quite ninja like. They have the little boxes on the install screen and such. For say a google toolbar, or a program that saves your passwords and fills them in when you go to that site. They dont do it "illegaly" considering that you agreed to the TOS and in those TOS it states add on programs. You know that people speed though installs and keep clicking the next button and don't read anything.