Fatism, Destiny and Fate Options

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I don't know many people that are Fatists, people that believe in Destiny, and a set course in path and in life. It may be either they don't want to believe it, or simply don't see the benefit, or maybe they don't understand it enough about it to think that it could work.

All choices are governed by factors, by influences. These factors are cancelled, reduced, and summed to calculate the end decision. The result of the choice reacts, and causes other factors, which then influence more choice. This endless cycle of cause and effect; of factor and choice is known as Fate -- Destiny.

Everything that has ever happened, happened the way it should have. There are no mistakes, simply, because Fate does not pose as a question with variation, but a statement. Fact, not opinion. Cause and effect are the only constants. All factors, when calculated out and completely influenced the sides of a decision will create the outcome. The outcome is then another choice. These factors are direct causes of choice, making variation an impossibility.

This is the essence of the inevitabilty. To think of Destiny as a helplessness, a weakness of non-control, it can be thought of on the contrary. It can be a strength: to know that what you do is with purpose, with pure decision and meaning; with an ultimatum of complete solidarity. It provides us with meaning in all actions, creating every movement, sound, and touch an art form within itself.


FOR MOVIE GOERS
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Now, it might sound familiar. "Our choices are predetermined" only the "illusion of choice". Well I swear to you that there is one peice of culture that can actually explain the concept well. You've all heard of it before. Bullet-dodging, flying kicks, black leather suits and tight jackets. The Matrix. Right. I know. But they do it well.

Probably the largest portion of the movie that can coincide with these things are scenes with the Merovingian, the Oracle, the Architect and Smith. Mostly in Reloaded. If you listen to them carefully, and actually try to understand what they say, it can make sense.

IN A NUTSHELL
Opinions?

[xXYouMeBedNowXx]

I know that it's horrible to bring this back up so late, but I can't bring up another topic on the same thing and satisfy my need to do this.

I don't now if i necessarily believe in fate and destiny. I remember one time visiting St. Jude's hospital and seeing all the cancer stricken children and babies. I hate to even think all that was predetermined.

True enough, yes. Again, one of the things about Fatism that I've found, compared to many others, is that it doesn't seem as justified as many other things. Fatism doesn't exactly seem to be as mythical or as out-of-this-worldish because we take into consideration logical explanations. Fatism is not something that I learned out of a book, or heard from from someone else, it is a simple manifestation of analysis of the things that I've witnessed. Which is why I believe in it so devoutly. Because it is my own deviation.

Even though, yes, those patients are in those hospital beds because they were meant to be, according to Fate. I still must say that simply because we can't exactly accept it, because we won't or we don't want to, does not mean that it can be completely denied.

I believe in fate and I believe everything happens for a reason, but I don't think its predetermined, I think its based on the different things you do through out life, I don't believe "god" sets these chains of events in our lifes, because I believe the individual is the master of their own destiny. I don't my ideas and phylosophys are complex and this is just the bare bones of what I believe.

Well, true enough, Fate can mean many different things and have many different variations. The things I'm putting out here are MY interpretations of what Fatism is. I'll just put down another post that may pertain to what is said in yours:

"choice is predetermined. [even yours]

You had a choice to download the song, or not to download the song.
You then therefore require a decision.
That decision was made out of motives and influences and factors
Factors which sprung from past choices
For example, you chose what kind of music you liked
All the things from the past will make you measure out a decision
And it will be that decision for sure.
Because your past is fixed.

Ta-da!"

i believe that fate is an excellent way to escape responsibility.

You can replace the word "Fate" and put that in with a lot of other beliefs, can't you? But yeah, it does sometimes. Makes you feel okay about some of the mistakes you make. Kinda sad to know that though.

THE THING ABOUT OUR CHOICES
I've just come to say this, but I've noticed that many people believe that their own choice will determine their course in life. Yes and no.

What you decide now will affect your decisions in the future.

What you decided before will affect your decisions now.

So transitively, your decisions from before will affect your decisions in the future, through the present.

Basically, according to Fate, even if you did nothing for the rest of your lifetime, it would avoid whatever happens later on because you wouldn't have to make any choices. You go "Hey, everything for me is predetermined, so why not just sit back, do nothing and let it all happen?!" because, people, that is a demonstration of Fate. Knowing about Fate itself becomes a factor. You reading this post becomes a factor. Believing in Fate even becomes a factor. You will make your decisions, even though it seems that it can go both ways, even if it doesn't seem that you are always compelled to one thing, and even if you seem to make a decision to cheat fate, all of it is still Fate because your decision becomes a role in the stage act of our set course according to destiny.

I know it may seem all opinionated. Attack me if you wish.