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 Jun 13 2005, 01:36 PM
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What do you think constitutes a just war? in my opinion the only type of just war I can think of is in self-defense, or in defensew of weaker allies, does ne1 else think otherwise? or are u just completely agaisnt war, period?
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Jun 18 2005, 05:30 AM
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"Sic Vis Pacem Para Bellum"
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Jun 18 2005, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 18 2005, 6:30 AM) "Sic Vis Pacem Para Bellum"  Ah yes, but that quote is a descendent of Flavius Vegetius Renatus's quote, "Qui desiderat pacem, bellum praeparat; nemo provocare ne offendere audet quem intelliget superiorem esse pugnaturem," which means, "Whosoever desires peace prepares for war; no one provokes, nor dares to offend, those who they know know to be superior in battle;" which goes to say that the quote is not encouraging offensive combating, but using a powerful military as a deterrent. |
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Jun 20 2005, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 18 2005, 10:54 AM) Ah yes, but that quote is a descendent of Flavius Vegetius Renatus's quote, "Qui desiderat pacem, bellum praeparat; nemo provocare ne offendere audet quem intelliget superiorem esse pugnaturem," which means, "Whosoever desires peace prepares for war; no one provokes, nor dares to offend, those who they know know to be superior in battle;" which goes to say that the quote is not encouraging offensive combating, but using a powerful military as a deterrent. powerful militaries sitting at home with nothing to do are awfully prone to overthrow thier ruler, expecially when the cash runs dry. it's more economical to send them into a war. also gives you a reason to raise taxes. |
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gotblog4me? what constitutes a just war? Jun 13 2005, 01:36 PM
mipadi In today's world, it seems to be best to adopt... Jun 13 2005, 03:24 PM youdrivinmegrapes I'm pretty much against all war. There's a... Jun 13 2005, 04:45 PM kryogenix War is justified when it benefits the country goin... Jun 13 2005, 04:53 PM
mipadi QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 13 2005, 5:53 PM)War is... Jun 13 2005, 06:49 PM kryogenix QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 13 2005, 6:49 PM)So German... Jun 14 2005, 04:55 PM not_for_anything I too am anti-war, unless there really is a reason... Jun 13 2005, 08:56 PM Kristinaa I don't quite see how people can be anti-war. ... Jun 14 2005, 12:48 AM Spirited Away I think I got the following sentence from a final ... Jun 14 2005, 12:49 PM nightmare4taki QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 14 2005, 11:49 AM)T... Jun 14 2005, 01:55 PM sammi rules you ^ she's right..
err, we didn't fight for ... Jun 14 2005, 01:17 PM not_for_anything But why is it our business to go invade their coun... Jun 14 2005, 04:02 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 4:02 PM... Jun 14 2005, 04:38 PM nightmare4taki QUOTE(Nightmare4taki)Although Americans may feel a... Jun 14 2005, 07:45 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(nightmare4taki @ Jun 14 2005, 7:45 PM)I... Jun 14 2005, 08:57 PM aera ^=]
if we could avoid war...that would be great. ... Jun 14 2005, 05:01 PM not_for_anything And at the ripe old age of 16 kryogenix know all a... Jun 14 2005, 05:05 PM kryogenix QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 5:05 PM... Jun 14 2005, 06:03 PM sammi rules you QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 4:05 PM... Jun 15 2005, 01:38 PM not_for_anything but was the war justified? not really...just beacu... Jun 14 2005, 06:49 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 5:05 PM... Jun 14 2005, 07:11 PM kryogenix QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 6:49 PM... Jun 14 2005, 08:11 PM not_for_anything well educate me if you would like, but what are yo... Jun 14 2005, 07:24 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 7:24 PM... Jun 14 2005, 07:44 PM sadolakced acid all war is justified.
that being said; the justif... Jun 14 2005, 09:11 PM kryogenix QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 14 2005, 9:11 PM)... Jun 15 2005, 06:51 AM sadolakced acid QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 15 2005, 6:51 AM)what d... Jun 15 2005, 02:18 PM CrackedRearView I find it hilarious that this 'just war' c... Jun 15 2005, 08:31 PM gotblog4me? QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Jun 15 2005, 9:31 PM)... Jun 16 2005, 02:55 PM Kristinaa QUOTEtouch my monkey Posted Jun 15 2005, 1:38 PM
... Jun 16 2005, 10:57 AM _suzie_ ''I too am anti-war, unless there really i... Jun 17 2005, 11:08 AM CrackedRearView QUOTE(_suzie_ @ Jun 17 2005, 10:08 AM)'... Jun 18 2005, 05:05 AM sikdragon My implication was self defense. Jun 19 2005, 11:33 PM sikdragon In modern society those things you speak of are no... Jun 20 2005, 11:35 PM mipadi QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 12:35 AM)In mo... Jun 20 2005, 11:50 PM sikdragon sorry, QUOTEpowerful militaries sitting at home wi... Jun 20 2005, 11:53 PM sadolakced acid ^
oh but they are nessicary. why else do powerf... Jun 21 2005, 12:06 AM CrackedRearView QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 20 2005, 11:06 PM... Jun 21 2005, 12:53 PM sikdragon i'm talking about lack of cash and overthrowin... Jun 21 2005, 12:07 AM sadolakced acid QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 12:07 AM)i... Jun 21 2005, 12:12 AM sikdragon volunteers aren't mercs. Volunteers are compen... Jun 21 2005, 12:15 AM sadolakced acid like stationed in the DMZ (pulling out) or in ger... Jun 21 2005, 12:17 AM sikdragon Wherever the president sends them. Jun 21 2005, 12:18 AM sadolakced acid QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 12:18 AM)Where... Jun 21 2005, 12:33 AM sikdragon You make it sound like we have one camp where the ... Jun 21 2005, 12:51 AM mipadi QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 1:51 AM)You ma... Jun 21 2005, 07:07 AM CrackedRearView QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 21 2005, 6:07 AM)Activity ... Jun 21 2005, 07:42 PM sadolakced acid i'm more of talking about the brass when i... Jun 21 2005, 12:53 AM sikdragon that's what we have MP's for. Jun 21 2005, 12:54 AM sikdragon QUOTEActivity duty personnel don't. When you... Jun 21 2005, 07:33 PM mipadi QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 8:33 PM)They... Jun 22 2005, 07:13 AM andriaalazing* nothing. Jun 21 2005, 11:21 PM |
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