The Bible?, historical acocunt or a political agenda Options

[sadolakced acid]

we all know this book. we've at least seen it in hotel rooms. this is the book with tissue-thin pages, the book that was first printed. this is a book that people rally to.

and it is a political agenda.

in the early years of christianity, there were many, many sects that called themselves chistian. one sect decided they were the real christians, and condemned the rest as false sects.

this sect evolved into the church. In order to make all other sects wrong, they edited the bible. they threw out the parts they didn't like, added parts they liked. The bible is a manual for how to live your life- so, why not add in a bit about who you should give money to?

over the years, the bible evolved as it's editors saw fit. It was changed, in the case of the king james bible, to help conquer ireland.

It was rewritten to support values the political leaders wanted supported.

want a reason to allow slavery? put in a bit about cain and able.

want to be able to get precious farmlands in the middle east? put in a bit about that being the holy land.

the bible, it seems, is nothing more than a written propoganda tool; too far edited from it's original text to be considered anything more than a pamplet that's designed, not to ensure truth of history, and that all sides are protrayed, but to get the godless heathens to convert to christianity.


now; you can either flame me and tell me how i couldn't understand, and cite bible quotes and give me something to laugh at,
or you can prove me wrong with a bit of rational debate.

i'd enjoy it emmensly more if you'd pick the first one, although the second is nice.

have a nice day!

[_suzie_]

''isn't part of god's morals to read the bible?''


um...no. how can that even BE a moral? God has never said anything about reading a bible...just to follow his laws and be loyal, love one another, etcetera.


''people have mutilated the meaning to fit their purpose, as others have stated in the thread. even in one church, a verse can be interpreted many different ways.''

nicely put,suddenly she. sikdragon put it nicely too, about the agenda's lying not within the bible but in the hands of politically driven men.
''The church is just a building'' - it is indeed. an institution.



someone asked for a passage where people were still punished ater repenting, theres thousands, but anyways...this is a fairly well known one, its wher King David had an affair with Bathsheeba, and murdered her husband when she became pregnant. (her husband was a Hittite fighting in the holy war, and all warriors in holy wars werent allowed to do anything 'unclean' like have sex during the war. so, david couldnt persuade him to stay home with his wife ie to frame him for the pregnancy, all that jazz)

heres the bible reference of the Jerusalem Bible, 2SAMUEL, 11. its titled , 'The second ammonite campaign. David's sin.'

anyways, so david murdered him.

Nathan the prophet comes along n shows david what he's done wrong etc, thru a parable.


nathan says ''Thus Yahweh speaks, 'i will stir up evil for you out of your own house..' ''
davids overwhelmed and falls to his knees in repentance, sayin
''i have sinned against yahweh''

thennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn nathan says , ''Yahweh, for his part, forgives you for his sin; you are not to die. Yet by doing this, the child that is born to you is to die''
David's son raped one of his daughters, whose brother then murdered the rapist..sorry kinda confusing, but displays the crisis within davids family

thats one example. sorry if its a bit brief, but i had an exam on the same thing the other day, and my head is melted from it.

if u want more ill type it up

[sadolakced acid]

nicely put,suddenly she.  sikdragon put it nicely too, about the agenda's lying not within the bible but in the hands of politically driven men.

yes, there is an agenda in the bible put in by politically driven men. it's tainted the bible so that it's word cannot be taken as the word of deciphels, or prophets, or whatever it's supposed to be.