The Nuclear Option, our american filibuster |
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 May 13 2005, 10:50 PM
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 dripping destruction  Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929  |
Now, here's a little background for those of you who don't know about the nuclear option (or the filibuster).
the dems have 45 seats in the senate, there's one independent who often votes liberal, and 54 gops (grand old party= republican). a filibuster is where you talk something to death. the senate must let everyone speak about an issue before they vote, or they take a vote to close speeches (requries a 60%) now, the dems have been using the filibuster to stop GOP nominations, which the senate must approve. the GOP is angry= they won an election, now they want to be able to put thier judges up, and have thier contributers be made diplomates and embassadors. the nuclear option would get rid of the filibuster. they'd only need a 51% to stop filibusters then, easily gotten with 54 seats. NOW FOR THE PROMPT the nuclear option violates a tradition in the senate, the dems also threaten to stop every single piece of legislation if the nuclear option is employed. so: do you think the nuclear option should be employed? and if you say no, which side should back down/ what should be done? |
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| *not_your_average* |
Jun 19 2005, 04:18 PM
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The Democrats need to have a say in our laws. If we did not employ the filibuster, abortion might become illegal, gay marriage would be outlawed, and the seperation of church and state would go kaput. We must keep the filibuster for everyone to have their say.
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| *CrackedRearView* |
Jun 19 2005, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(not_your_average @ Jun 19 2005, 3:18 PM) The Democrats need to have a say in our laws. If we did not employ the filibuster, abortion might become illegal, gay marriage would be outlawed, and the seperation of church and state would go kaput. We must keep the filibuster for everyone to have their say.  Are you going to sing the same tune when a Democrat is elected? |
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Jun 19 2005, 10:45 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Jun 19 2005, 9:28 PM) Are you going to sing the same tune when a Democrat is elected? no, because we're hippocrites. we need compromises. i'd personally like to see a dem. president with a GOP vice president, or vice versa. it'd be interesting. and the filibuster is the minority's right. even if it does happen to be the republican minority, when the time comes. i think, if someone cares enough about an issue to talk 48 hours straight, they deserve to have people negotiate and come to a compromise with them. |
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sadolakced acid The Nuclear Option May 13 2005, 10:50 PM
BrandonSaunders From that brief explanation there and there confus... May 14 2005, 12:11 AM mipadi It's not completely a matter of "the Dems... Jun 2 2005, 09:58 AM CrackedRearView Well, it's nothing new. Post-election hostili... Jun 2 2005, 04:28 PM not_for_anything Not employed, why should they be given the power? ... Jun 9 2005, 01:13 PM
CrackedRearView QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 9 2005, 12:13 PM... Jun 17 2005, 06:06 PM CrackedRearView Something that struck me as interesting was how dr... Jul 7 2005, 05:36 AM mipadi The legislature shouldn't have the mentality t... Jul 7 2005, 07:31 AM |
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