The Bible?, historical acocunt or a political agenda Options

[sadolakced acid]

we all know this book. we've at least seen it in hotel rooms. this is the book with tissue-thin pages, the book that was first printed. this is a book that people rally to.

and it is a political agenda.

in the early years of christianity, there were many, many sects that called themselves chistian. one sect decided they were the real christians, and condemned the rest as false sects.

this sect evolved into the church. In order to make all other sects wrong, they edited the bible. they threw out the parts they didn't like, added parts they liked. The bible is a manual for how to live your life- so, why not add in a bit about who you should give money to?

over the years, the bible evolved as it's editors saw fit. It was changed, in the case of the king james bible, to help conquer ireland.

It was rewritten to support values the political leaders wanted supported.

want a reason to allow slavery? put in a bit about cain and able.

want to be able to get precious farmlands in the middle east? put in a bit about that being the holy land.

the bible, it seems, is nothing more than a written propoganda tool; too far edited from it's original text to be considered anything more than a pamplet that's designed, not to ensure truth of history, and that all sides are protrayed, but to get the godless heathens to convert to christianity.


now; you can either flame me and tell me how i couldn't understand, and cite bible quotes and give me something to laugh at,
or you can prove me wrong with a bit of rational debate.

i'd enjoy it emmensly more if you'd pick the first one, although the second is nice.

have a nice day!

[sadolakced acid]

I don't think you're understanding this the right way. Read my sig.

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
-John 3:16

Who is the true follower of Christ, the man who preaches non-violence or the man who commits genocide?

according to most every christian i've asked, the man who commites genocide. that is, if he truely believes in jesus christ as his lord and savior and truly seeks forgiveness for his sins.

ehh. hitler has a greater chance than me of getting into heaven.

that being said, everyone should worship jesus. either as thier lord and savior, or as history's greatest con.

i think getting billions of people to call you god is pretty good if you aren't really god, don't you think?

and if you are god, why can't you get the rest?

that being said; i do not believe in jesus christ as my lord and savior, and thus i will undeniablly go to hell, as ghandi undeniably went to hell.

hitler, however, as well as high nazis, have a better chance of going to heavan.

[*suddenly she*]

according to most every christian i've asked, the man who commites genocide.  that is, if he truely believes in jesus christ as his lord and savior and truly seeks forgiveness for his sins. 

ehh.  hitler has a greater chance than me of getting into heaven.

that being said, everyone should worship jesus.  either as thier lord and savior, or as history's greatest con. 

i think getting billions of people to call you god is pretty good if you aren't really god, don't you think?

and if you are god, why can't you get the rest?

that being said; i do not believe in jesus christ as my lord and savior, and thus i will undeniablly go to hell, as ghandi undeniably went to hell. 

hitler, however, as well as high nazis, have a better chance of going to heavan.

he doesn't get the rest because he gives people the choice to pick him or not. he gives us this free will.

i don't know your intelligence level (looking at your other posts, it's quite high), but if you're about to ask why he would give us free will if it was sending people to their deaths..

-yes, i've read the other post you made and that you don't like people saying God loves you and all those wonderfully creative Bible answers-

he gave you the free will because he loves you. please don't kill me, because that would be bad. from what i can see, you're enjoying your free will to refuse him. that's what he wanted you to do, enjoy life. he didn't want a robot following his ideals, but a person who really believed it... and then there are people who just don't want to.

there we go, now you can't look like a preaching parrot because i think i've fulfilled the quota for the next week or so.

i don't understand how people just don't believe there is a God. would someone care to explain?

[sadolakced acid]

he doesn't get the rest because he gives people the choice to pick him or not. he gives us this free will.

i don't know your intelligence level (looking at your other posts, it's quite high), but if you're about to ask why he would give us free will if it was sending people to their deaths..

-yes, i've read the other post you made and that you don't like people saying God loves you and all those wonderfully creative Bible answers-

he gave you the free will because he loves you. please don't kill me, because that would be bad. from what i can see, you're enjoying your free will to refuse him. that's what he wanted you to do, enjoy life. he didn't want a robot following his ideals, but a person who really believed it... and then there are people who just don't want to.

there we go, now you can't look like a preaching parrot because i think i've fulfilled the quota for the next week or so.

i don't understand how people just don't believe there is a God. would someone care to explain?

ehhh. i've seen too much of this world and what can happen to innocent people to believe there is a god. i started life as a blank slate- my parents didn't force any religion upon me, and from this freedom i've concluded that there is no god that controls anything in this world.

i do actually believe there are gods- but they aren't as powerful as me make them out to be- they're mortal, etc.

but, most imporantly, i do not believe jesus was the christ. i just don't believe. jesus seems... too manufactured. too much a prop to be used to recruit people.

anyways:

tell me, in all honesty, if hitler truely believed in jesus christ as his lord and savior, and he truely repented for what he did, would he go to heaven or hell?

[*suddenly she*]

anyways:

tell me, in all honesty, if hitler truely believed in jesus christ as his lord and savior, and he truely repented for what he did, would he go to heaven or hell?

heaven.
i need to do more research on hitler.