The Bible?, historical acocunt or a political agenda Options

[sadolakced acid]

we all know this book. we've at least seen it in hotel rooms. this is the book with tissue-thin pages, the book that was first printed. this is a book that people rally to.

and it is a political agenda.

in the early years of christianity, there were many, many sects that called themselves chistian. one sect decided they were the real christians, and condemned the rest as false sects.

this sect evolved into the church. In order to make all other sects wrong, they edited the bible. they threw out the parts they didn't like, added parts they liked. The bible is a manual for how to live your life- so, why not add in a bit about who you should give money to?

over the years, the bible evolved as it's editors saw fit. It was changed, in the case of the king james bible, to help conquer ireland.

It was rewritten to support values the political leaders wanted supported.

want a reason to allow slavery? put in a bit about cain and able.

want to be able to get precious farmlands in the middle east? put in a bit about that being the holy land.

the bible, it seems, is nothing more than a written propoganda tool; too far edited from it's original text to be considered anything more than a pamplet that's designed, not to ensure truth of history, and that all sides are protrayed, but to get the godless heathens to convert to christianity.


now; you can either flame me and tell me how i couldn't understand, and cite bible quotes and give me something to laugh at,
or you can prove me wrong with a bit of rational debate.

i'd enjoy it emmensly more if you'd pick the first one, although the second is nice.

have a nice day!

[sikdragon]

Hitler commited suicide, so no as far as we know. Cain and abel was written long before christianity was even thought of here on earth. Genesis is just one of the many books written by moses. The bible doesnt say that if you're not christian you won't go to heaven. The church is just a building. The only thing you need to actually do is love. love your neighbor, love your God. When i say your God im not acknowledging any other god. Im saying that the God of abraham, isaac, and jacob can be yours. There is no political agenda in the bible. The agenda lies outside the bible in those who preach. The agenda lies in pamphlets and explanations. The agenda lies in money grubbing wolves who hide in sheeps clothing. The agenda lies in the hypocrites and those on street corners praying loudly for the world to hear. Christianity isn't a cult or a sect. It's not even about being a group of people. It's about a personal relationship with Jesus. You wanna know if he's real or not. Talk to him. Ask for him and he will be there. Jesus can't be seen because of the sin in your life. That's not placing any sort of i'm better than you stance on it either. There was sin in my life and probably will be. Well, i should start again by explaining what sin is. We Christians just use words and expect everyone to understand what we know them to mean. Sin is a dark stormy cloud that covers us and keeps the son from shining it's warmth down on us. With sin we can't see the sun. Does that mean we have to change the weather? no, that's not possible. We need help. We need the sun to move it the clouds away, (he's closer and his arms are longer.) The bible can't be a political agenda. It doesnt stand to gain anything. The leaders only gain from ignorance of the Bible, (not understanding the fundamentals of the bible). The bible teaches the same selflessness of buddhists in the fact that some of the groups give everything up to find enlightenment and reach nirvana, but not to such an extreme. It teaches togetherness like the cults, but not ritual suicide. It teaches Law, just like there is in every christian/nonchristian country alike. If you took time to read it rather than just looking up a couple stories and then bashing you would understand. Read isnt the word i mean, i mean immerse yourself in it. See it like you would when you read a book you really enjoy. See the characters for who they are. Imagine the geneology as it would have been. See the picture of God that the lord has made.

As for all of the innocence lost. How can God exist when there is so much corruption in the world. God being a just God won't force anyone to be with him. God is the quintessence of good. Without him there is corruption and death. In the garden of Eden, God took a stick and drew a metaphorical line in the sand. He said if you want to be buried with my son and not die with the world that has chosen to try and exist without me, cross the line. The thing about this line is that it can be recrossed and that is just what the two in the garden did. With that he said, "I would die for you, would you do the same for me?" In that moment that eve took a bite of the fruit she said she wouldnt. She didnt want to be saved from death.

Those responsible for all of those who have died. Those who transgress against anyone transgress against him and they will face their just punishment.

I dont claim to know every aspect of christanity. All i can claim to understand is the fact that a christian is defined in the bible as one who loves Christ or the unknown God as he was referred to earlier in the world. Did you know all of the hindu God's are believed to be all apart of one greater God. Did you know that Allah is just the arabic word for God. Everyone on earth has heard of God. Everyone on earth knows of God. It may not be the same aspect as we Christians know God, but that's the reason why he wrote the bible and set us out into the world. So that all of the other nations should hear of him so they can see the rest of the picture he has set out before us.