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The Bible?, historical acocunt or a political agenda |
Jun 10 2005, 12:11 AM
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dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
we all know this book. we've at least seen it in hotel rooms. this is the book with tissue-thin pages, the book that was first printed. this is a book that people rally to.
and it is a political agenda. in the early years of christianity, there were many, many sects that called themselves chistian. one sect decided they were the real christians, and condemned the rest as false sects. this sect evolved into the church. In order to make all other sects wrong, they edited the bible. they threw out the parts they didn't like, added parts they liked. The bible is a manual for how to live your life- so, why not add in a bit about who you should give money to? over the years, the bible evolved as it's editors saw fit. It was changed, in the case of the king james bible, to help conquer ireland. It was rewritten to support values the political leaders wanted supported. want a reason to allow slavery? put in a bit about cain and able. want to be able to get precious farmlands in the middle east? put in a bit about that being the holy land. the bible, it seems, is nothing more than a written propoganda tool; too far edited from it's original text to be considered anything more than a pamplet that's designed, not to ensure truth of history, and that all sides are protrayed, but to get the godless heathens to convert to christianity. now; you can either flame me and tell me how i couldn't understand, and cite bible quotes and give me something to laugh at, or you can prove me wrong with a bit of rational debate. i'd enjoy it emmensly more if you'd pick the first one, although the second is nice. have a nice day! |
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Jun 16 2005, 09:43 PM
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dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 16 2005, 3:24 PM) I don't think you're understanding this the right way. Read my sig. "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." -John 3:16 Who is the true follower of Christ, the man who preaches non-violence or the man who commits genocide? according to most every christian i've asked, the man who commites genocide. that is, if he truely believes in jesus christ as his lord and savior and truly seeks forgiveness for his sins. ehh. hitler has a greater chance than me of getting into heaven. that being said, everyone should worship jesus. either as thier lord and savior, or as history's greatest con. i think getting billions of people to call you god is pretty good if you aren't really god, don't you think? and if you are god, why can't you get the rest? that being said; i do not believe in jesus christ as my lord and savior, and thus i will undeniablly go to hell, as ghandi undeniably went to hell. hitler, however, as well as high nazis, have a better chance of going to heavan. |
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Jun 16 2005, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 16 2005, 10:43 PM) according to most every christian i've asked, the man who commites genocide. that is, if he truely believes in jesus christ as his lord and savior and truly seeks forgiveness for his sins. ehh. hitler has a greater chance than me of getting into heaven. that being said, everyone should worship jesus. either as thier lord and savior, or as history's greatest con. i think getting billions of people to call you god is pretty good if you aren't really god, don't you think? and if you are god, why can't you get the rest? that being said; i do not believe in jesus christ as my lord and savior, and thus i will undeniablly go to hell, as ghandi undeniably went to hell. hitler, however, as well as high nazis, have a better chance of going to heavan. he doesn't get the rest because he gives people the choice to pick him or not. he gives us this free will. i don't know your intelligence level (looking at your other posts, it's quite high), but if you're about to ask why he would give us free will if it was sending people to their deaths.. -yes, i've read the other post you made and that you don't like people saying God loves you and all those wonderfully creative Bible answers- he gave you the free will because he loves you. please don't kill me, because that would be bad. from what i can see, you're enjoying your free will to refuse him. that's what he wanted you to do, enjoy life. he didn't want a robot following his ideals, but a person who really believed it... and then there are people who just don't want to. there we go, now you can't look like a preaching parrot because i think i've fulfilled the quota for the next week or so. i don't understand how people just don't believe there is a God. would someone care to explain? |
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sadolakced acid The Bible? Jun 10 2005, 12:11 AM
Spirited Away Let me laugh at you first... HAHAHAHHAHA another o... Jun 10 2005, 12:33 AM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 10 2005, 12:33 AM)L... Jun 10 2005, 12:55 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 10 2005, 12:55 AM... Jun 10 2005, 12:59 AM
BrandonSaunders Just for the sake of debate and out of sheer bored... Jun 10 2005, 02:03 AM
xcaitlinx QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Jun 10 2005, 2:03 AM)... Jun 10 2005, 04:32 PM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(caytexo @ Jun 10 2005, 3:32 PM)first of... Jun 11 2005, 01:34 AM
sammi rules you i find it pretty sad that we have to be reduced to... Jun 10 2005, 12:01 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jun 10 2005, 12:01 PM... Jun 10 2005, 01:12 PM
sammi rules you if you read different versions of the bible, there... Jun 10 2005, 01:24 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jun 10 2005, 1:24 PM)... Jun 10 2005, 03:41 PM
baller30 QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jun 10 2005, 1:24 PM)... Jun 13 2005, 07:33 PM
Spirited Away Ah, okay I give up. You win.
Okay, wait, I... Jun 10 2005, 01:36 PM
sammi rules you sweeeeet!!! i beat fae!...for the ... Jun 10 2005, 01:48 PM
karrar This is another reason muslims praise there koran ... Jun 10 2005, 01:49 PM
not_for_anything Yes but there are original manuscripts. It was Con... Jun 10 2005, 04:14 PM
sadolakced acid like the details that people used to justify slave... Jun 10 2005, 04:23 PM
XoJennaoX QUOTE(caytexo @ Jun 10 2005, 4:32 PM)first of... Jun 10 2005, 05:28 PM
xcaitlinx QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Jun 10 2005, 5:28 PM)Sounds... Jun 10 2005, 07:02 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(caytexo @ Jun 10 2005, 7:02 PM)not real... Jun 10 2005, 08:35 PM
sammi rules you and the christians you've met probably haven... Jun 10 2005, 10:37 PM
sadolakced acid religion is trendy, christianity most of all.
tee... Jun 11 2005, 01:52 AM
xcaitlinx Christianity HAS become trendy, because a helluva ... Jun 11 2005, 10:17 AM
suddenly she QUOTE(caytexo @ Jun 11 2005, 11:17 AM)Christi... Jun 11 2005, 02:41 PM
sadolakced acid aye, there are separate branches of chrisitanity... Jun 11 2005, 03:04 PM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 11 2005, 2:04 PM)... Jun 11 2005, 10:24 PM
ghetosmurph Which gets into the Catholic Church and the Protos... Jun 11 2005, 09:28 PM
gotblog4me? I'm with ghetosmurph, again!, we're wo... Jun 11 2005, 11:00 PM
sammi rules you ^ well that's just swell!
QUOTEjust so we... Jun 11 2005, 11:16 PM
BrandonSaunders You can be devout in your faith and not agree with... Jun 11 2005, 11:27 PM
sadolakced acid the 10 people! becuase they weren't chris... Jun 12 2005, 12:04 AM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 11 2005, 11:04 PM... Jun 12 2005, 10:09 AM
suddenly she QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 12 2005, 1:04 AM)... Jun 12 2005, 05:05 PM
sammi rules you so...anyone who's not christian..even though t... Jun 12 2005, 05:12 PM
suddenly she QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jun 12 2005, 6:12 PM)... Jun 13 2005, 02:24 PM
crayonzUpMyNose i think it was just a bunch of stories people made... Jun 12 2005, 08:47 PM
sadolakced acid ghandi goes to hell?
darwin goes to hell?
galeli... Jun 12 2005, 09:22 PM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 12 2005, 8:22 PM)... Jun 12 2005, 10:28 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 12 2005, 9:22 PM)... Jun 16 2005, 03:24 PM
suddenly she QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 16 2005, 4:24 PM)I don... Jun 16 2005, 05:22 PM
BrandonSaunders baller30,
You are viewing this from your own pers... Jun 13 2005, 07:47 PM
baller30 i totally understnad what you are saying people ju... Jun 13 2005, 07:54 PM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(baller30 @ Jun 13 2005, 6:54 PM)the pro... Jun 13 2005, 08:07 PM
sadolakced acid ehh.
i have had the chance to become christian.... Jun 13 2005, 09:40 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(suddenly she @ Jun 16 2005, 11:27 PM)he... Jun 17 2005, 10:10 PM
suddenly she QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 17 2005, 11:10 PM... Jun 18 2005, 03:26 PM
_suzie_ some of you are makin it out to sound like the mur... Jun 17 2005, 10:50 AM
suddenly she QUOTE(_suzie_ @ Jun 17 2005, 11:50 AM)some of... Jun 17 2005, 06:25 PM
sikdragon Hitler commited suicide, so no as far as we know. ... Jun 18 2005, 06:23 AM
sadolakced acid ^ read the whole debate. Jun 18 2005, 01:02 PM
sammi rules you and i would go to hell, since i'm atheist?
we... Jun 18 2005, 03:34 PM
suddenly she QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jun 18 2005, 4:34 PM)... Jun 18 2005, 05:36 PM

Spirited Away QUOTE(suddenly she @ Jun 18 2005, 5:36 PM)wha... Jun 18 2005, 06:46 PM
pink_p0lo ^^ iagree with the above post...
QUOTE(touch my m... Jun 18 2005, 06:37 PM
pink_p0lo big..but why would it matter anyway??
btw,yeah, i... Jun 18 2005, 07:07 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(pink_p0lo @ Jun 18 2005, 7:07 PM)big..b... Jun 18 2005, 07:15 PM
pink_p0lo big enough to hold two of every kind of animal.
... Jun 18 2005, 07:39 PM
XoJennaoX QUOTE(pink_p0lo @ Jun 18 2005, 6:37 PM)althou... Jun 18 2005, 07:50 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(pink_p0lo @ Jun 18 2005, 7:39 PM)big en... Jun 18 2005, 09:09 PM
kryogenix so, exactly what was taken out of the bible that y... Jun 18 2005, 07:47 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(pink_p0lo @ Jun 18 2005, 6:37 PM)althou... Jun 18 2005, 09:21 PM
lbjshaq2345 dude
not even gonna go thare Jun 18 2005, 09:23 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(lbjshaq2345 @ Jun 18 2005, 9:23 PM)dude... Jun 18 2005, 09:30 PM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(lbjshaq2345 @ Jun 18 2005, 8:23 PM)dude... Jun 19 2005, 02:41 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Jun 19 2005, 2:41 AM)... Jun 19 2005, 09:51 AM
BrandonSaunders Ahh, good morning, Fae? How are you today?
QUOTE(... Jun 19 2005, 09:54 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Jun 19 2005, 9:54 AM)... Jun 19 2005, 09:59 AM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 19 2005, 8:59 AM)Un... Jun 19 2005, 04:21 PM
sammi rules you QUOTEbig enough to hold two of every kind of anima... Jun 19 2005, 11:24 AM
_suzie_ ''isn't part of god's morals to re... Jun 19 2005, 01:28 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(_suzie_ @ Jun 19 2005, 1:28 PM)nicely p... Jun 19 2005, 10:50 PM
sikdragon I did read it and i had some very valid points. Jun 19 2005, 11:29 PM
suddenly she ah... you guys. when we compare bibles, let's ... Jun 20 2005, 12:11 AM
xXYouMeBedNowXx I just read the entire thread, and hopefully I... Jun 20 2005, 09:39 AM
kryogenix This Week's Gospel: Matthew 10:26-33
Now ver... Jun 20 2005, 08:17 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 20 2005, 8:17 PM)This W... Jun 20 2005, 11:15 PM
sadolakced acid ^ what was the point of that?
it's a stupid b... Jun 20 2005, 08:19 PM
sikdragon He's giving referrance to what i said earlier.... Jun 20 2005, 10:55 PM
sikdragon i'm not talking about you disbelieving it fae.... Jun 20 2005, 11:33 PM
Spirited Away I know I said good night, but darn it I was checki... Jun 20 2005, 11:43 PM
sikdragon When you love someone the natural reaction is to w... Jun 20 2005, 11:51 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 20 2005, 11:51 PM)a not... Jun 21 2005, 12:07 AM
sammi rules you i really hope you weren't suggesting that just... Jun 20 2005, 11:58 PM
sikdragon before christianity there was judaism before relig... Jun 21 2005, 12:03 AM
sammi rules you haha i thought justin posted above you. nevermind.... Jun 21 2005, 12:05 AM
sikdragon Going to church or christian school doesnt make yo... Jun 21 2005, 12:08 AM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 12:08 AM)Going... Jun 21 2005, 12:09 AM
sammi rules you but it makes you experience it, something you said... Jun 21 2005, 12:09 AM
sikdragon no it doesnt. You cant fully understand something ... Jun 21 2005, 12:11 AM
sadolakced acid what haven't i experienced? Jun 21 2005, 12:13 AM
sikdragon God. Jun 21 2005, 12:14 AM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 12:14 AM)God.
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sikdragon the bible is God's word. The bible is how to r... Jun 21 2005, 12:17 AM
cookieskater2 *sigh*
I'm a strong christian, and some of th... Jun 21 2005, 12:18 AM
sikdragon QUOTE*sigh*
I'm a strong christian, and some ... Jun 21 2005, 12:19 AM
cookieskater2 But you are supposed to point out the obvious wron... Jun 21 2005, 12:22 AM
sikdragon You don't help anyone by forcing your hand. Jun 21 2005, 12:23 AM
cookieskater2 I didn't force anything. Jun 21 2005, 12:24 AM![]() ![]() |