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what constitutes a just war?, what do you think? |
Jun 13 2005, 01:36 PM
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What do you think constitutes a just war? in my opinion the only type of just war I can think of is in self-defense, or in defensew of weaker allies, does ne1 else think otherwise? or are u just completely agaisnt war, period?
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Jun 14 2005, 09:11 PM
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dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
all war is justified.
that being said; the justifications provided aren't always good, and are made up for convienece. but it is justified. there are no winners in war. there is only a side that lost more, and a side that lost less. that being said; a just war is one in which everyone loses the same amount or nobody loses at all. and, as everyone loses in war, the only just war is on in which everyone dies. so; MAD is the only justified war. |
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Jun 15 2005, 06:51 AM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 14 2005, 9:11 PM) there are no winners in war. there is only a side that lost more, and a side that lost less. that being said; a just war is one in which everyone loses the same amount or nobody loses at all. what do you mean no winners? what about a war where one gains territory? surely the side that one is the winner. are you saying the US didn't win the Spanish-American war? Did they lose the same as the Spanish? |
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Jun 15 2005, 02:18 PM
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dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 15 2005, 6:51 AM) what do you mean no winners? what about a war where one gains territory? surely the side that one is the winner. are you saying the US didn't win the Spanish-American war? Did they lose the same as the Spanish? ehh. countries can 'win'. the people in the war cannot. |
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gotblog4me? what constitutes a just war? Jun 13 2005, 01:36 PM
mipadi In today's world, it seems to be best to adopt... Jun 13 2005, 03:24 PM
youdrivinmegrapes I'm pretty much against all war. There's a... Jun 13 2005, 04:45 PM
kryogenix War is justified when it benefits the country goin... Jun 13 2005, 04:53 PM
mipadi QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 13 2005, 5:53 PM)War is... Jun 13 2005, 06:49 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 13 2005, 6:49 PM)So German... Jun 14 2005, 04:55 PM
not_for_anything I too am anti-war, unless there really is a reason... Jun 13 2005, 08:56 PM
Kristinaa I don't quite see how people can be anti-war. ... Jun 14 2005, 12:48 AM
Spirited Away I think I got the following sentence from a final ... Jun 14 2005, 12:49 PM
nightmare4taki QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 14 2005, 11:49 AM)T... Jun 14 2005, 01:55 PM
sammi rules you ^ she's right..
err, we didn't fight for ... Jun 14 2005, 01:17 PM
not_for_anything But why is it our business to go invade their coun... Jun 14 2005, 04:02 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 4:02 PM... Jun 14 2005, 04:38 PM
nightmare4taki QUOTE(Nightmare4taki)Although Americans may feel a... Jun 14 2005, 07:45 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(nightmare4taki @ Jun 14 2005, 7:45 PM)I... Jun 14 2005, 08:57 PM
aera ^=]
if we could avoid war...that would be great. ... Jun 14 2005, 05:01 PM
not_for_anything And at the ripe old age of 16 kryogenix know all a... Jun 14 2005, 05:05 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 5:05 PM... Jun 14 2005, 06:03 PM
sammi rules you QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 4:05 PM... Jun 15 2005, 01:38 PM
not_for_anything but was the war justified? not really...just beacu... Jun 14 2005, 06:49 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 5:05 PM... Jun 14 2005, 07:11 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 6:49 PM... Jun 14 2005, 08:11 PM
not_for_anything well educate me if you would like, but what are yo... Jun 14 2005, 07:24 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 7:24 PM... Jun 14 2005, 07:44 PM
CrackedRearView I find it hilarious that this 'just war' c... Jun 15 2005, 08:31 PM
gotblog4me? QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Jun 15 2005, 9:31 PM)... Jun 16 2005, 02:55 PM
Kristinaa QUOTEtouch my monkey Posted Jun 15 2005, 1:38 PM
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_suzie_ ''I too am anti-war, unless there really i... Jun 17 2005, 11:08 AM
CrackedRearView QUOTE(_suzie_ @ Jun 17 2005, 10:08 AM)'... Jun 18 2005, 05:05 AM
sikdragon "Sic Vis Pacem Para Bellum" Jun 18 2005, 05:30 AM
mipadi QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 18 2005, 6:30 AM)... Jun 18 2005, 10:54 AM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 18 2005, 10:54 AM)Ah yes, ... Jun 20 2005, 12:40 AM
sikdragon My implication was self defense. Jun 19 2005, 11:33 PM
sikdragon In modern society those things you speak of are no... Jun 20 2005, 11:35 PM
mipadi QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 12:35 AM)In mo... Jun 20 2005, 11:50 PM
sikdragon sorry, QUOTEpowerful militaries sitting at home wi... Jun 20 2005, 11:53 PM
sadolakced acid ^
oh but they are nessicary. why else do powerf... Jun 21 2005, 12:06 AM
CrackedRearView QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 20 2005, 11:06 PM... Jun 21 2005, 12:53 PM
sikdragon i'm talking about lack of cash and overthrowin... Jun 21 2005, 12:07 AM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 12:07 AM)i... Jun 21 2005, 12:12 AM
sikdragon volunteers aren't mercs. Volunteers are compen... Jun 21 2005, 12:15 AM
sadolakced acid like stationed in the DMZ (pulling out) or in ger... Jun 21 2005, 12:17 AM
sikdragon Wherever the president sends them. Jun 21 2005, 12:18 AM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 12:18 AM)Where... Jun 21 2005, 12:33 AM
sikdragon You make it sound like we have one camp where the ... Jun 21 2005, 12:51 AM
mipadi QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 1:51 AM)You ma... Jun 21 2005, 07:07 AM
CrackedRearView QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 21 2005, 6:07 AM)Activity ... Jun 21 2005, 07:42 PM
sadolakced acid i'm more of talking about the brass when i... Jun 21 2005, 12:53 AM
sikdragon that's what we have MP's for. Jun 21 2005, 12:54 AM
sikdragon QUOTEActivity duty personnel don't. When you... Jun 21 2005, 07:33 PM
mipadi QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 8:33 PM)They... Jun 22 2005, 07:13 AM
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