Smart Guys Don't Get The Girls, 10 Reasons Why. Options

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10 Reasons Why Intelligent Men Don't Get Women

Now now, I know what you're all thinking. cB is dominantly mature enough and (ahem) intelligent enough to take this seriously. The author here has published his writing, and he too, also has had exceptional experience; so no need to bash his credentials. So...I was wondering. Any guys get some answers?

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Here I go again to spill my heart out to a bunch of people I don't know...

Ok, first we are talking about "intelligence", while I don't think that is really the guy that don't get the girls. There are intelligent and attractive guys and they get the girls. Nice guys usually don't get the girls, but guys with WISDOM I think more often do not get the girls. Guys with wisdom have a knowledge of life and are very distinct from other people, although often they are also very intelligent. Although no one fits this system rigorously, let's look at the people as balanced.

Very attractive people are popular. They get dates, their social skills are being like everyone else that is popular. They might have intelligence, but usually lack wisdom and/or kindness. If conformity means being stupid, then they act or are stupid.

Then, you have your somewhat attractive people. They get dates, they have decent social skills, but also have their own values and will not conform against what they value the most. They are probably from average to high intelligence, have some wisdom, and are probably nice.

Last, you have your intelligent and wise people. They are probably less attractive and although they might not be ugly, they usually feel they are and are treated as if they were ugly because they are not popular. Their wisdom and higher system of values will not allow them to conform to everyone else, They may have poor social skills and might be very shy and quiet. They are usually introverts, and therefore may have a deep potential for passion. Although these people may not always show to be the nicest people, they may have the greatest potential for kindness and usually enjoy helping others. These are people that you can have an interesting talk with for hours, these people are usually very understanding, their ability to give advice and understand your deepest feelings is unparalled.

So for the top 10 reasons why the last group doesn't get the girls:
1. They are not popular.
2. They are different from most people. They are more individualistic than anyone else.
3. They are usually not as attractive.
4. They usually lack some social skills and are probably shy.
5. Especially in their teenage years, they act in a much more mature manner, although when pressured into a stressful situation by their peers, may act completely ignorant.
6. They want it too much. As I said before these guys are very passionate (Don't confuse that with LUSTY). I know this one well from experience. I have a very passionate desire for intimacy, I want it more than the life that I have and need it more than the air that I breathe. And the more I want it, the more it eludes me. I've learned to ignore it though, which helps.
7. They put on masks. They have often been hurt by people they opened up to a bit and prejudged for their differences. After awhile, they are afraid to show who they really are. These people may show two completely different personalities while at home and school.
8. Learned helplessness is a psychology term that describes how an animal or human can be conditioned to be down and feel like nothing they do can make a difference. Like when a mouse is given electric shocks at random times, they end up with learned helplessness because they have no control over their environment, the shocks that is. If the mouse gets shocked everytime he pushes a button, he just won't push the button, so learned helplessness also comes because our environment is unpredictable. I think the last group may suffer from learned helplessness. Where most people would be accepted for a given social act, these people will always be rejected. Learned helplessness develops because they feel like they have no control over their environment, the response people may give to a given action are unpredictable, yet always negative. They begin to feel like nothing they do really matters, they feel like they don't have any control over what people think about them.
9. Logical approach, rather than emotional. That is not to say that these people aren't as emotional, they are, they just don't know how to approach women this way.
10. I agree with the top ten reasons in a few cases, but I think I am describing people that are a bit different that just intelligent.

[CrazayChristian]

Here I go again to spill my heart out to a bunch of people I don't know...

Ok, first we are talking about "intelligence", while I don't think that is really the guy that don't get the girls. There are intelligent and attractive guys and they get the girls. Nice guys usually don't get the girls, but guys with WISDOM I think more often do not get the girls. Guys with wisdom have a knowledge of life and are very distinct from other people, although often they are also very intelligent. Although no one fits this system rigorously, let's look at the people as balanced.

Very attractive people are popular. They get dates, their social skills are being like everyone else that is popular. They might have intelligence, but usually lack wisdom and/or kindness. If conformity means being stupid, then they act or are stupid.

Then, you have your somewhat attractive people. They get dates, they have decent social skills, but also have their own values and will not conform against what they value the most. They are probably from average to high intelligence, have some wisdom, and are probably nice.

Last, you have your intelligent and wise people. They are probably less attractive and although they might not be ugly, they usually feel they are and are treated as if they were ugly because they are not popular. Their wisdom and higher system of values will not allow them to conform to everyone else, They may have poor social skills and might be very shy and quiet. They are usually introverts, and therefore may have a deep potential for passion. Although these people may not always show to be the nicest people, they may have the greatest potential for kindness and usually enjoy helping others. These are people that you can have an interesting talk with for hours, these people are usually very understanding, their ability to give advice and understand your deepest feelings is unparalled.

So for the top 10 reasons why the last group doesn't get the girls:
1. They are not popular.
2. They are different from most people. They are more individualistic than anyone else.
3. They are usually not as attractive.
4. They usually lack some social skills and are probably shy.
5. Especially in their teenage years, they act in a much more mature manner, although when pressured into a stressful situation by their peers, may act completely ignorant.
6. They want it too much. As I said before these guys are very passionate (Don't confuse that with LUSTY). I know this one well from experience. I have a very passionate desire for intimacy, I want it more than the life that I have and need it more than the air that I breathe. And the more I want it, the more it eludes me. I've learned to ignore it though, which helps.
7. They put on masks. They have often been hurt by people they opened up to a bit and prejudged for their differences. After awhile, they are afraid to show who they really are. These people may show two completely different personalities while at home and school.
8. Learned helplessness is a psychology term that describes how an animal or human can be conditioned to be down and feel like nothing they do can make a difference. Like when a mouse is given electric shocks at random times, they end up with learned helplessness because they have no control over their environment, the shocks that is. If the mouse gets shocked everytime he pushes a button, he just won't push the button, so learned helplessness also comes because our environment is unpredictable. I think the last group may suffer from learned helplessness. Where most people would be accepted for a given social act, these people will always be rejected. Learned helplessness develops because they feel like they have no control over their environment, the response people may give to a given action are unpredictable, yet always negative. They begin to feel like nothing they do really matters, they feel like they don't have any control over what people think about them.
9. Logical approach, rather than emotional. That is not to say that these people aren't as emotional, they are, they just don't know how to approach women this way.
10. I agree with the top ten reasons in a few cases, but I think I am describing people that are a bit different that just intelligent.

I already like you man, you described my state of mind a few months ago in a nut shell.

It's not the fact that someone is intelligent, it's the fact that someone is intelligent and uses it a little too much. (David DeAngelo, I've read a little bit of his work, he knows what he's talkin about and if he doesn't he found someone who does.)


See, I was intelligent and logical. I actually shoved myself from everyone else for TWO YEARS because of what happend to me before. I had spent that time to observe people, I actually TRIED to learn why people were the way they were. This is why I was stuck in this funk.

Anyways, it wasn't a waste, I can actually predict people now. But that's beside the point.


The point is, this "Smart Guy" Described is just someone who thinks TOO logically when it's not needed. I mean, in thier mind it makes total sense, and it took me 3 years to discover that the human mind is NOT LOGICAL.

This book is correct to an extent, the key point is it's not "Intelligence" that is the problem, it's the SKILL to know when to use them and when to not use them.