what constitutes a just war?, what do you think? Options

[gotblog4me?]

What do you think constitutes a just war? in my opinion the only type of just war I can think of is in self-defense, or in defensew of weaker allies, does ne1 else think otherwise? or are u just completely agaisnt war, period?

[not_for_anything]

But why is it our business to go invade their country?, and I'm not actually that liberal...

[Spirited Away]

But why is it our business to go invade their country?, and I'm not actually that liberal...

If you're asking about Vietnam, it's because of the Red scare and the fear that communism might fall into the domino effect in Asia. The south appreciated American interference by the way. They never complained until US troops pulled out so suddenly.

If you're asking about just any invasion, you might have a better chance of getting a good answer by asking a simple question with not so simple an of answer: "why war?".

Although Americans may feel as though a democracy is the best form of government, that may not be necessarily how every person feels. Really and truly although a war may be just in some peoples eyes it may not always go as expected just like in the case with Vietnam, your just fighting a hopeless battle.

Democracy is the best form of government according to Vietnamese Nationalist... That's why they fought against the spread of Communism. What are you trying to say exactly?

[*nightmare4taki*]

Although Americans may feel as though a democracy is the best form of government, that may not be necessarily how every person feels.

Really and truly although a war may be just in some peoples eyes it may not always go as expected just like in the case with Vietnam, your just fighting a hopeless battle. The only reason I would approve of a country going to war these days is if another world war is about to break out.

Democracy is the best form of government according to Vietnamese Nationalist... That's why they fought against the spread of Communism. What are you trying to say exactly?

Im going to separate these statements in my quote from earlier today.


I never said anything about a Communism or any other form of government being better then a Democracy. I was speaking in terms of the people Iraq not Vietnam when I said they may not necessarily want a Democracy form of government established. In other words in the U.S. the government was built and found by the people so why can't we let them establish what ever government suits them, is all i was trying to say. When I brought up the Vietnam war I was saying that it was hopeless in constantly fighting because in some cases you never knew who your friend or enemy was. I know this because my school history teacher fought in the war and he told us this first hand. So basically what i mean is when your fighting a war there is a losing side but with the loss of life its hard to say a certain side won.

[Spirited Away]

I never said anything about a Communism or any other form of government being better then a Democracy. I was speaking in terms of the people Iraq not Vietnam when I said they may not necessarily want a Democracy form of government established. In other words in  the U.S. the government was built and found by the people so why can't we let them establish what ever government suits them, is all i was trying to say. When I brought up the Vietnam war I was saying that it was hopeless in constantly fighting because in some cases you never knew who your friend or enemy was. I know this because my school history teacher fought in the war and he told us this first hand. So basically what i mean is when your fighting a war there is a losing side but with the loss of life its hard to say a certain side won.

I never said you said that Communism is better than Democracy. You said that others may not feel that Democracy is good for them. I didn't deny it. I only said that Nationalist Vietnamese knew what was good for them, which was Democracy. I did not realize you were speaking of the Iraqi.

As for the Vietnam War, it's interesting that your teacher should say that. Though he felt that it was hopeless, nationalists never gave up. Even after the fall of Saigon and even now. While he thought it was hopeless, there were Vietnamese who were tortured to the point of insanity at one point in time who now still fight the battle. Hopeless is point of view, you see.

Also, the US never lost anything but perhaps pride. I've heard so many people, and even read in textbooks that says the US lost the Vietnam War... which is a silly thing. What did the US lose exactly? Compare loss of pride to loss of pride AND freedom, homeland...

Anyway, back to topic.

Hmm, maybe I did hear it on Samurai X... I don't remember anymore.. but I will try to find out if the quote was ever said in Final Fantasy. Oh wait.. this isn't the topic either... LOL.