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what constitutes a just war?, what do you think? |
Jun 13 2005, 01:36 PM
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What do you think constitutes a just war? in my opinion the only type of just war I can think of is in self-defense, or in defensew of weaker allies, does ne1 else think otherwise? or are u just completely agaisnt war, period?
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Jun 14 2005, 06:49 PM
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but was the war justified? not really...just beacuse capotilist people hate the communist doesnt mean we should attack them because we think we have a better system, and the oil was a perk, but still probably the motivation to get us over there
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Jun 14 2005, 07:11 PM
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![]() Quand j'étais jeune... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 5:05 PM) And at the ripe old age of 16 kryogenix know all about history, well anyway I am allowed to hold an opinion, thats what debate is, ok so now were back to listening to what the news tells us the war was for, because it was not to save vietnam...then why were all the hippies preaching in the streets...it was more than just about getting their loved ones home in one peice, it was about how unjust the war was. Hell no it was not to save Vietnam. It would be ridiculous, and quite naive to believe that the US, or any other country for that matter, would go to war without expecting some kind of reward or positive turnout for themselves. We all know it so there is no need for you to tell the rest of us that the US intended to save Vietnam... There is a great flaw in wording. The correct way to say this would be the US intended to prevent communism from spreading to Vietnam. Hippies took to the streets because they saw monks burning themselves. Yet, they failed to see the story behind the images, behind the photos. Where is justice in oppressing the people? Where is justice in taking lands, rightfully belonging to my ancestors for generations away from my family? Where is justice in incarcerating thousands upon thousands Nationalist soldiers while using endless kinds of torture? If you want more information on this I will supply it. It's so easy to say the war was unjust from the point of views of those who do not understand the pain of loss, but you know, there are more than one point of view. QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 6:49 PM) but was the war justified? not really...just beacuse capotilist people hate the communist doesnt mean we should attack them because we think we have a better system, and the oil was a perk, but still probably the motivation to get us over there Tell me how much you know about the Vietnam War because it seems to me you are in desperate need of a lesson. Of course, I am also in a desperate need to educate those who think they know the war when the only source they have is from secondary, and oftimes one-sided sources. And how the heck do you get oil mixed up in the Vietnam War... |
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gotblog4me? what constitutes a just war? Jun 13 2005, 01:36 PM
mipadi In today's world, it seems to be best to adopt... Jun 13 2005, 03:24 PM
youdrivinmegrapes I'm pretty much against all war. There's a... Jun 13 2005, 04:45 PM
kryogenix War is justified when it benefits the country goin... Jun 13 2005, 04:53 PM
mipadi QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 13 2005, 5:53 PM)War is... Jun 13 2005, 06:49 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 13 2005, 6:49 PM)So German... Jun 14 2005, 04:55 PM
not_for_anything I too am anti-war, unless there really is a reason... Jun 13 2005, 08:56 PM
Kristinaa I don't quite see how people can be anti-war. ... Jun 14 2005, 12:48 AM
Spirited Away I think I got the following sentence from a final ... Jun 14 2005, 12:49 PM
nightmare4taki QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 14 2005, 11:49 AM)T... Jun 14 2005, 01:55 PM
sammi rules you ^ she's right..
err, we didn't fight for ... Jun 14 2005, 01:17 PM
not_for_anything But why is it our business to go invade their coun... Jun 14 2005, 04:02 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 4:02 PM... Jun 14 2005, 04:38 PM
nightmare4taki QUOTE(Nightmare4taki)Although Americans may feel a... Jun 14 2005, 07:45 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(nightmare4taki @ Jun 14 2005, 7:45 PM)I... Jun 14 2005, 08:57 PM
aera ^=]
if we could avoid war...that would be great. ... Jun 14 2005, 05:01 PM
not_for_anything And at the ripe old age of 16 kryogenix know all a... Jun 14 2005, 05:05 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 5:05 PM... Jun 14 2005, 06:03 PM
sammi rules you QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 4:05 PM... Jun 15 2005, 01:38 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 6:49 PM... Jun 14 2005, 08:11 PM
not_for_anything well educate me if you would like, but what are yo... Jun 14 2005, 07:24 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 7:24 PM... Jun 14 2005, 07:44 PM
sadolakced acid all war is justified.
that being said; the justif... Jun 14 2005, 09:11 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 14 2005, 9:11 PM)... Jun 15 2005, 06:51 AM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 15 2005, 6:51 AM)what d... Jun 15 2005, 02:18 PM
CrackedRearView I find it hilarious that this 'just war' c... Jun 15 2005, 08:31 PM
gotblog4me? QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Jun 15 2005, 9:31 PM)... Jun 16 2005, 02:55 PM
Kristinaa QUOTEtouch my monkey Posted Jun 15 2005, 1:38 PM
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_suzie_ ''I too am anti-war, unless there really i... Jun 17 2005, 11:08 AM
CrackedRearView QUOTE(_suzie_ @ Jun 17 2005, 10:08 AM)'... Jun 18 2005, 05:05 AM
sikdragon "Sic Vis Pacem Para Bellum" Jun 18 2005, 05:30 AM
mipadi QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 18 2005, 6:30 AM)... Jun 18 2005, 10:54 AM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 18 2005, 10:54 AM)Ah yes, ... Jun 20 2005, 12:40 AM
sikdragon My implication was self defense. Jun 19 2005, 11:33 PM
sikdragon In modern society those things you speak of are no... Jun 20 2005, 11:35 PM
mipadi QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 12:35 AM)In mo... Jun 20 2005, 11:50 PM
sikdragon sorry, QUOTEpowerful militaries sitting at home wi... Jun 20 2005, 11:53 PM
sadolakced acid ^
oh but they are nessicary. why else do powerf... Jun 21 2005, 12:06 AM
CrackedRearView QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 20 2005, 11:06 PM... Jun 21 2005, 12:53 PM
sikdragon i'm talking about lack of cash and overthrowin... Jun 21 2005, 12:07 AM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 12:07 AM)i... Jun 21 2005, 12:12 AM
sikdragon volunteers aren't mercs. Volunteers are compen... Jun 21 2005, 12:15 AM
sadolakced acid like stationed in the DMZ (pulling out) or in ger... Jun 21 2005, 12:17 AM
sikdragon Wherever the president sends them. Jun 21 2005, 12:18 AM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 12:18 AM)Where... Jun 21 2005, 12:33 AM
sikdragon You make it sound like we have one camp where the ... Jun 21 2005, 12:51 AM
mipadi QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 1:51 AM)You ma... Jun 21 2005, 07:07 AM
CrackedRearView QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 21 2005, 6:07 AM)Activity ... Jun 21 2005, 07:42 PM
sadolakced acid i'm more of talking about the brass when i... Jun 21 2005, 12:53 AM
sikdragon that's what we have MP's for. Jun 21 2005, 12:54 AM
sikdragon QUOTEActivity duty personnel don't. When you... Jun 21 2005, 07:33 PM
mipadi QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 8:33 PM)They... Jun 22 2005, 07:13 AM
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