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what constitutes a just war?, what do you think? |
Jun 13 2005, 01:36 PM
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What do you think constitutes a just war? in my opinion the only type of just war I can think of is in self-defense, or in defensew of weaker allies, does ne1 else think otherwise? or are u just completely agaisnt war, period?
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Jun 14 2005, 12:49 PM
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![]() Quand j'étais jeune... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
I think I got the following sentence from a final fantasy game/movie.. whatever..
There is no right or wrong side in a war, just two sides holding different beliefs. So either side fighting the war will say our reasons for war is justified and the other is not. However, history will write itself that the winner of the war is right, and thus, justified. Therefore, justified causes for war be damned. QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 13 2005, 8:56 PM) I too am anti-war, unless there really is a reason, Vietnam, Iraq, Afganastan, all were uncalled for...seeing as there were no WMD, we had no business in Iraq, and well we should have left the Vietnameese alone with their oil!, unnecessary deaths...no reasons, except pride. I guess only wars i can understand are religious wars, although I dont understand how they think they are serving justice..by more killing. What are you saying about the Vietnamese? I think you meant Iraq... But um... please don't say that the Vietnam war was uncalled for because it demeans the lives of those who fought for freedom and against oppression. |
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Jun 14 2005, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 14 2005, 11:49 AM) I heard that same thing in that movie samurai X or something similar to that. Out of all honesty, in my opinion I think a just war is when your intentions are to help others or someone is an actual threat to the life of your country. The Iraq War on Terrorism seemed like a good idea on paper but in actuality really nothing good has come out of it. The American troops have done all they can to help out but yet some people are still resistant and honestly I really cant blame the resistant for their actions. Its no different from Russia coming into the U.S. and telling them what kind of government will be established and how it should be operated. Although Americans may feel as though a democracy is the best form of government, that may not be necessarily how every person feels. Really and truly although a war may be just in some peoples eyes it may not always go as expected just like in the case with Vietnam, your just fighting a hopeless battle. The only reason I would approve of a country going to war these days is if another world war is about to break out. I got a little off topic. LOL |
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gotblog4me? what constitutes a just war? Jun 13 2005, 01:36 PM
mipadi In today's world, it seems to be best to adopt... Jun 13 2005, 03:24 PM
youdrivinmegrapes I'm pretty much against all war. There's a... Jun 13 2005, 04:45 PM
kryogenix War is justified when it benefits the country goin... Jun 13 2005, 04:53 PM
mipadi QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 13 2005, 5:53 PM)War is... Jun 13 2005, 06:49 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 13 2005, 6:49 PM)So German... Jun 14 2005, 04:55 PM
not_for_anything I too am anti-war, unless there really is a reason... Jun 13 2005, 08:56 PM
Kristinaa I don't quite see how people can be anti-war. ... Jun 14 2005, 12:48 AM
sammi rules you ^ she's right..
err, we didn't fight for ... Jun 14 2005, 01:17 PM
not_for_anything But why is it our business to go invade their coun... Jun 14 2005, 04:02 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 4:02 PM... Jun 14 2005, 04:38 PM
nightmare4taki QUOTE(Nightmare4taki)Although Americans may feel a... Jun 14 2005, 07:45 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(nightmare4taki @ Jun 14 2005, 7:45 PM)I... Jun 14 2005, 08:57 PM
aera ^=]
if we could avoid war...that would be great. ... Jun 14 2005, 05:01 PM
not_for_anything And at the ripe old age of 16 kryogenix know all a... Jun 14 2005, 05:05 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 5:05 PM... Jun 14 2005, 06:03 PM
sammi rules you QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 4:05 PM... Jun 15 2005, 01:38 PM
not_for_anything but was the war justified? not really...just beacu... Jun 14 2005, 06:49 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 5:05 PM... Jun 14 2005, 07:11 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 6:49 PM... Jun 14 2005, 08:11 PM
not_for_anything well educate me if you would like, but what are yo... Jun 14 2005, 07:24 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(not_for_anything @ Jun 14 2005, 7:24 PM... Jun 14 2005, 07:44 PM
sadolakced acid all war is justified.
that being said; the justif... Jun 14 2005, 09:11 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 14 2005, 9:11 PM)... Jun 15 2005, 06:51 AM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 15 2005, 6:51 AM)what d... Jun 15 2005, 02:18 PM
CrackedRearView I find it hilarious that this 'just war' c... Jun 15 2005, 08:31 PM
gotblog4me? QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Jun 15 2005, 9:31 PM)... Jun 16 2005, 02:55 PM
Kristinaa QUOTEtouch my monkey Posted Jun 15 2005, 1:38 PM
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_suzie_ ''I too am anti-war, unless there really i... Jun 17 2005, 11:08 AM
CrackedRearView QUOTE(_suzie_ @ Jun 17 2005, 10:08 AM)'... Jun 18 2005, 05:05 AM
sikdragon "Sic Vis Pacem Para Bellum" Jun 18 2005, 05:30 AM
mipadi QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 18 2005, 6:30 AM)... Jun 18 2005, 10:54 AM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 18 2005, 10:54 AM)Ah yes, ... Jun 20 2005, 12:40 AM
sikdragon My implication was self defense. Jun 19 2005, 11:33 PM
sikdragon In modern society those things you speak of are no... Jun 20 2005, 11:35 PM
mipadi QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 12:35 AM)In mo... Jun 20 2005, 11:50 PM
sikdragon sorry, QUOTEpowerful militaries sitting at home wi... Jun 20 2005, 11:53 PM
sadolakced acid ^
oh but they are nessicary. why else do powerf... Jun 21 2005, 12:06 AM
CrackedRearView QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 20 2005, 11:06 PM... Jun 21 2005, 12:53 PM
sikdragon i'm talking about lack of cash and overthrowin... Jun 21 2005, 12:07 AM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 12:07 AM)i... Jun 21 2005, 12:12 AM
sikdragon volunteers aren't mercs. Volunteers are compen... Jun 21 2005, 12:15 AM
sadolakced acid like stationed in the DMZ (pulling out) or in ger... Jun 21 2005, 12:17 AM
sikdragon Wherever the president sends them. Jun 21 2005, 12:18 AM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 12:18 AM)Where... Jun 21 2005, 12:33 AM
sikdragon You make it sound like we have one camp where the ... Jun 21 2005, 12:51 AM
mipadi QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 1:51 AM)You ma... Jun 21 2005, 07:07 AM
CrackedRearView QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 21 2005, 6:07 AM)Activity ... Jun 21 2005, 07:42 PM
sadolakced acid i'm more of talking about the brass when i... Jun 21 2005, 12:53 AM
sikdragon that's what we have MP's for. Jun 21 2005, 12:54 AM
sikdragon QUOTEActivity duty personnel don't. When you... Jun 21 2005, 07:33 PM
mipadi QUOTE(sikdragon @ Jun 21 2005, 8:33 PM)They... Jun 22 2005, 07:13 AM
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