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sadolakced acid
post Dec 27 2004, 09:39 PM
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Alright, let's keep this a debate, not just stating opinions. that's important.
don't just state your opinion, support it

alright. here's some background

Copyright law prohibits the copying of Digital audio for commercial use. Copying of audio for personal use is allowed, but only first generation copies may be made (copies of the original) second generation copies are illegal (copies of copies). however, computers allow this, and thus the RIAA has said that using your computer to copy digital audio, no matter first or second gen. copies, is illegal. this was ruled as incorrect and not what the law says by a court.

First off, the obvious, is whether or not ripping your CDs to MP3s is illegal

also, is downloading music from online illegal? (copyright law only mentions distributing, not taking)

and, do new CDs that prevent ripping to MP3s, and DRM (digital rights management) WMAs violate the user right to copy?
 
 
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sadolakced acid
post Jun 13 2005, 07:02 PM
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No. I believe copyright law allows a person to shift their music or film to another medium. Even if that's still a grey area, I think that if I buy a CD, I should be allowed to shift it into whatever form I wish.


^ fair use only applies to cassette tapes. if you were to make copies to cassette tapes, then the law would make that legal.

copies to anything else is murky business, although courts have ruled it legal; the law doesn't actualy say it is.


now; here's how file sharing applies to me:

there are a few bands i would like to hear how they sound and see if i want to buy thier CD. lacuna coil, seether, godsmack.

now; my library doesn't have thier CDs. i can't listen to them online. i would like to download them off a P2P server; but i don't want to get prosecuted.

therefore; i haven't bought their CDs yet.
i'd like to, but i don't want to spend 15 bucks on a CD just to find out it sucks.

i think record companies would find significant increases in sales if they provided 2 or three 45 kps MP3 songs from each CD for download.
 
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post Jun 13 2005, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 13 2005, 8:02 PM)
^ fair use only applies to cassette tapes.  if you were to make copies to cassette tapes, then the law would make that legal. 

copies to anything else is murky business, although courts have ruled it legal; the law doesn't actualy say it is.
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Mmm, I'm not sure where you got your information, but fair use applies to every medium that is covered by copyright law, including text, images, cassettes, CD's, DVD's, and so forth.

More about Fair Use provision
 
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post Jun 13 2005, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 13 2005, 7:17 PM)
Mmm, I'm not sure where you got your information, but fair use applies to every medium that is covered by copyright law, including text, images, cassettes, CD's, DVD's, and so forth.

More about Fair Use provision
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the law only specifically states cassette tapes, but has been applied to other mediums, IIRC...
 
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post Jun 13 2005, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 14 2005, 12:21 AM)
the law only specifically states cassette tapes, but has been applied to other mediums,  IIRC...
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It's a minor point, but I think fair use has always applied to all mediums--in fact, I think it dealt with text first.

You can read about it in sections 107-118 of the US copyright code.
 

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sadolakced acid   Copyright Law   Dec 27 2004, 09:39 PM
sadolakced acid   (sorry about the double post, i wanted to separate...   Dec 27 2004, 09:53 PM
waitwaitwait   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 27 2004, 9:53 PM)...   Jun 15 2005, 10:31 PM
azn_r4pf4n   Hmmmm... this might be tough. Lemme think... I ca...   Dec 28 2004, 12:11 AM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 27 2004, 9:53 PM)...   Dec 28 2004, 01:45 PM
azn_r4pf4n   im not statin my opinion here, i'm just statin...   Dec 28 2004, 04:43 PM
sadolakced acid   Yes, the CD is just the right to listen to the son...   Dec 28 2004, 06:41 PM
ComradeRed   You don't reserve any rights unless the other ...   Dec 29 2004, 09:01 PM
sadolakced acid   but. if i was not informed it was copy protected, ...   Dec 29 2004, 10:46 PM
ComradeRed   If it states on the thing that it is copy protecte...   Dec 30 2004, 09:47 AM
mai_z   QUOTEFirst off, the obvious, is whether or not rip...   Dec 30 2004, 10:29 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 27 2004, 10:39 PM...   Jun 13 2005, 04:00 PM
starlette   Technically, you do have the right to copy songs f...   Jun 13 2005, 04:18 PM
EriaNight   My mom has been working in the film and music indu...   Jun 13 2005, 05:42 PM
sadolakced acid   No. I believe copyright law allows a person to shi...   Jun 13 2005, 07:02 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 13 2005, 8:02 PM)...   Jun 13 2005, 07:17 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 13 2005, 7:17 PM)Mmm, I...   Jun 13 2005, 11:21 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 14 2005, 12:21 AM...   Jun 13 2005, 11:46 PM
sadolakced acid   ehh. more reasons why copy protection is stupid: ...   Jun 15 2005, 09:54 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 15 2005, 10:54 PM...   Jun 15 2005, 11:04 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 15 2005, 11:04 PM)That is ...   Jun 15 2005, 11:50 PM
TaintedDesires   Well, there is already the technology to download ...   Jun 16 2005, 01:28 PM


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