The Bible?, historical acocunt or a political agenda |
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The Bible?, historical acocunt or a political agenda |
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we all know this book. we've at least seen it in hotel rooms. this is the book with tissue-thin pages, the book that was first printed. this is a book that people rally to.
and it is a political agenda. in the early years of christianity, there were many, many sects that called themselves chistian. one sect decided they were the real christians, and condemned the rest as false sects. this sect evolved into the church. In order to make all other sects wrong, they edited the bible. they threw out the parts they didn't like, added parts they liked. The bible is a manual for how to live your life- so, why not add in a bit about who you should give money to? over the years, the bible evolved as it's editors saw fit. It was changed, in the case of the king james bible, to help conquer ireland. It was rewritten to support values the political leaders wanted supported. want a reason to allow slavery? put in a bit about cain and able. want to be able to get precious farmlands in the middle east? put in a bit about that being the holy land. the bible, it seems, is nothing more than a written propoganda tool; too far edited from it's original text to be considered anything more than a pamplet that's designed, not to ensure truth of history, and that all sides are protrayed, but to get the godless heathens to convert to christianity. now; you can either flame me and tell me how i couldn't understand, and cite bible quotes and give me something to laugh at, or you can prove me wrong with a bit of rational debate. i'd enjoy it emmensly more if you'd pick the first one, although the second is nice. have a nice day! |
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if you read different versions of the bible, there are things different about it. some include things against womens' rights and the lot, and more recent versions don't.
if there were no changes, why are there so many versions? |
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QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jun 10 2005, 1:24 PM) if you read different versions of the bible, there are things different about it. some include things against womens' rights and the lot, and more recent versions don't. if there were no changes, why are there so many versions? the reason there have been different wersions of the bible are for mamny reasons 1. the greek expersions for some things are very hard to translate and can be translated in many different ways; here's my favorite example: In the Greek to say that you deeply cared about something, you would say something to the affect that it makes their bowels move... hehe ... to translate this literally would make no sense to the American and/or English reader so instead it would be translate as: i love he/she/it from the bottom of my heart( or with all my heart) 2. one word has several different meanings depending of context many of you know that in english, one word can have so many different meanings. in the greek and hebrew this is very true. that's all i can think of right now when i think of more i'll get back to you o and one more thing... in order to go to heaven, a person must wholeheartedly believe in Jesus Christ as his/hjer Lord and Savior and believe that he is God and died on the cross to sve them from themselves and their sin. someone can claim they are a christian, but really never be. the buman heart is decietful. someone can fool him/herself into anything, including the fact that they believe they are a chritian, bu they are not. Only God knows people's hearts, but a person can also really be a Christian and believe that they are not ( as i said before the heart is wicked). Most people however know that they are christians by what their heart's desire really is. the pyscho can claim is a chrsitian, hitler can claim he is a christian, but if it is not shown in their life that they live how God wants them to live - which is a pure and holy life( which is impossible without Him) - they cannot be a christian. so that means that by this definition, a christian cannot be someone who murders others and never wholeheartedly repents. this person may be sorry, but if they are sorry beacuse they got caught then that is not true repentance. Repentance is being truly sorry because they have done something horrible not only against their fellow man, but most importantly against God. It may seem harsh that God doesn't let those who don't believe in Him and His son into heaven, but God doesn't have to answer to us. Why should a artist answer to the pot? God created us and we have sinned against Him from birth. Like our parents, he has to punish us for what we have done wrong. |
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