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stem-cell research
smile4me
post Jun 1 2005, 04:16 PM
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do you support stem-cell researching? why or why not?
should federal funding be given to these researchers?
do you support embryonic or adult stem cells (or both)?
 
 
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sadolakced acid
post Jun 12 2005, 09:40 PM
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because we don't have the technology to use ASCs yet.

we don't hvae the technology to use anything but ESCs right now.

and no, waiting is not an option.
the more you wait the more people die.
 
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post Jun 12 2005, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 12 2005, 9:40 PM)
because we don't have the technology to use ASCs yet. 

we don't hvae the technology to use anything but ESCs right now.

and no, waiting is not an option.
the more you wait the more people die.
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umm i think you have that backwards, did you read the article i linked on page 2?? we have and are using ASCs now ESC technology is still in the testing phase.... we have ASC now. ESC is all about the potential, which they havent figured out how to harness, and now with the cell transformation of ASCs whatever advantage in potential that ESCs had is gone. your right, waiting is not an option, that is why it is being used now, and why i believe more of the Funding should go into ASC's to help the people whom we have the power to help, now.

Yes and you are correct in that ASC's will try to revet to what they were and might be less useful in the brain and such areas, however the fact of the matter is that it can still be done. it is an alternative, and since they haven't figured out how to use ESCs to replicate any of those things yet, i believet tht we should put more of the funding into where it is helping ppl now.

This has been fun, it's always good to debate worthy oponnents, it gives me a chance to see how much more i can learn on a subject and prepares me to better defend my views angainst others. Since i believe that my point has been made, as have the rest of yours, which i can clearly see, i believe it is time to focus my efforts eslewhere. Thanx, I really had a lot of fun doing this, hope to see the rest of you around on CB _smile.gif
 
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post Jun 13 2005, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(ghetosmurph @ Jun 12 2005, 11:13 PM)
umm i think you have that backwards, did you read the article i linked on page 2?? we have and are using ASCs now ESC technology is still in the testing phase.... we have ASC now. ESC is all about the potential, which they havent figured out how to harness, and now with the cell transformation of ASCs whatever advantage in potential that ESCs had is gone. your right, waiting is not an option, that is why it is being used now, and why i believe more of the Funding should go into ASC's to help the people whom we have the power to help, now.

Yes and you are correct in that ASC's will try to revet to what they were and might be less useful in the brain and such areas, however the fact of the matter is that it can still be done. it is an alternative, and since they haven't figured out how to use ESCs to replicate any of those things yet, i believet tht we should put more of the funding into where it is helping ppl now.

This has been fun, it's always good to debate worthy oponnents, it gives me a chance to see how much more i can learn on a subject and prepares me to better defend my views angainst others. Since i believe that my point has been made, as have the rest of yours, which i can clearly see, i believe it is time to focus my efforts eslewhere. Thanx, I really had a lot of fun doing this, hope to see the rest of you around on CB _smile.gif
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you don't understand what i ment... do you?

ASC's are farther along yes... but we don't have the technology to use them like we have to use ESCs. Our current technology will let use us ESCs in ways ASCs can never be used, like regrowing whole limbs.

ASCs are farther along... but they'll read a tecnology road block, and ESCs will pass them.
 

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smile4me   stem-cell research   Jun 1 2005, 04:16 PM
Frankie   weren't there topics on this already? i search...   Jun 2 2005, 10:40 AM
waitwaitwait   If it helps us and doesn't hurt anything in th...   Jun 2 2005, 03:57 PM
smile4me   QUOTE(waitwaitwait @ Jun 2 2005, 3:57 PM)If i...   Jun 2 2005, 06:18 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE(smile4me @ Jun 2 2005, 7:18 PM)would ki...   Jun 2 2005, 06:40 PM
smile4me   QUOTE(gotnoheart @ Jun 2 2005, 6:40 PM)Althou...   Jun 2 2005, 07:20 PM
ItzOnlySydney   ^ agreed, it's helps =)   Jun 2 2005, 03:58 PM
not_your_average   I support all kinds of stem-cell research. Embryon...   Jun 2 2005, 07:18 PM
sadolakced acid   embryonic stem cells don't come from anything ...   Jun 2 2005, 11:25 PM
x_signhere   mm.. right it's just like my view on abortion....   Jun 3 2005, 11:27 AM
b0st0ngrl   If the carrier of the embryo decided to abort it t...   Jun 3 2005, 11:31 AM
DisneyPrincessKate   we watched a movie on stem cell research about 2 w...   Jun 5 2005, 01:50 PM
not_your_average   QUOTE(DisneyPrincessKate @ Jun 5 2005, 1:50 P...   Jun 6 2005, 02:14 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(DisneyPrincessKate @ Jun 5 2005, 2:50 P...   Jun 8 2005, 07:44 AM
smile4me   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 8 2005, 7:44 AM)You make i...   Jun 10 2005, 10:46 AM
sammi rules you   ^ we're not killing potential babies..we'r...   Jun 5 2005, 03:37 PM
BrandonSaunders   A revolutionary breakthrough thanks to stem-cell r...   Jun 5 2005, 04:47 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(DisneyPrincessKate @ Jun 5 2005, 1:50 P...   Jun 6 2005, 08:52 PM
sadolakced acid   read the f**king thread. the entire f**king thre...   Jun 10 2005, 03:38 PM
ghetosmurph   There are many tales of the medical miracles ESCs ...   Jun 11 2005, 09:04 PM
gotblog4me?   O.k. ghetosmurph, I can't read the whole thing...   Jun 11 2005, 10:50 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(gotblog4me? @ Jun 11 2005, 11:50 PM)O.k...   Jun 11 2005, 11:14 PM
ghetosmurph   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 11 2005, 11:14 PM)Here...   Jun 12 2005, 12:29 PM
XoJennaoX   QUOTE(ghetosmurph @ Jun 12 2005, 12:29 PM)who...   Jun 12 2005, 01:47 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(ghetosmurph @ Jun 12 2005, 1:29 PM)Now ...   Jun 12 2005, 04:11 PM
ghetosmurph   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 12 2005, 4:11 PM)I do not ...   Jun 12 2005, 04:44 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   I only supported if it used to preserve endanger s...   Jun 12 2005, 12:01 AM
sadolakced acid   please read the whole f.ucking thread. thank you...   Jun 12 2005, 12:13 AM
sammi rules you   i don't think anyone has the right to decide w...   Jun 12 2005, 03:10 PM
ghetosmurph   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Jun 12 2005, 1:47 PM)Yes th...   Jun 12 2005, 04:26 PM
Spirited Away   I just wanted to address a couple of things in thi...   Jun 13 2005, 05:42 PM
gotblog4me?   QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jun 12 2005, 4:10 PM)...   Jun 12 2005, 04:44 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(gotblog4me? @ Jun 12 2005, 5:44 PM)as f...   Jun 12 2005, 04:57 PM
ghetosmurph   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 12 2005, 4:57 PM)Potential...   Jun 12 2005, 05:32 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(ghetosmurph @ Jun 12 2005, 6:32 PM)whic...   Jun 12 2005, 05:54 PM
ghetosmurph   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 12 2005, 5:54 PM)That does...   Jun 12 2005, 07:01 PM
mipadi   It takes a lot of nerves to liken stem cell resear...   Jun 12 2005, 04:32 PM
ghetosmurph   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 12 2005, 4:32 PM)It takes ...   Jun 12 2005, 04:49 PM
gotblog4me?   to mipadi: Personally, by ur last post, i think yo...   Jun 12 2005, 04:45 PM
sammi rules you   QUOTEany possible theory for evolution has been pr...   Jun 12 2005, 05:25 PM
gotblog4me?   QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jun 12 2005, 6:25 PM)...   Jun 12 2005, 10:15 PM
sammi rules you   ^ read my previous posts. killing (or should i say...   Jun 12 2005, 05:40 PM
ghetosmurph   QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jun 12 2005, 5:25 PM)...   Jun 12 2005, 05:45 PM
sammi rules you   QUOTEand if we take away you food, water and air, ...   Jun 12 2005, 05:53 PM
ghetosmurph   QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jun 12 2005, 5:40 PM)...   Jun 12 2005, 06:02 PM
sammi rules you   i, too, am tired of repeating myself. embryos ca...   Jun 12 2005, 06:16 PM
sammi rules you   did you read my characteristics of a living organi...   Jun 12 2005, 08:37 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTEwould ppl. who tell other ppl. to please read...   Jun 12 2005, 08:46 PM
ghetosmurph   but b/c it goes inactive, there is a time where it...   Jun 12 2005, 08:50 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(ghetosmurph @ Jun 12 2005, 8:50 PM)but ...   Jun 12 2005, 08:56 PM
sadolakced acid   the fundamental difference between adult stem cell...   Jun 12 2005, 08:54 PM
sammi rules you   have you ever picked a flower? accidentally pulled...   Jun 12 2005, 08:55 PM
ghetosmurph   Since any cell in the perti dish can theoretically...   Jun 12 2005, 09:37 PM
sadolakced acid   because we don't have the technology to use AS...   Jun 12 2005, 09:40 PM
ghetosmurph   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 12 2005, 9:40 PM)...   Jun 12 2005, 11:13 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(ghetosmurph @ Jun 12 2005, 11:13 PM)umm...   Jun 13 2005, 10:15 AM
sammi rules you   ^ true, ASCs will not grow parts that ESCs are use...   Jun 13 2005, 01:09 PM
sadolakced acid   september 11th was alqueida forcing thier morals o...   Jun 13 2005, 06:56 PM
sadolakced acid   i would like to note: the first person to grow e...   Jun 20 2005, 12:33 AM
smile4me   ohgeebus. i didn't realize there were so many ...   Jun 22 2005, 10:34 PM
sadolakced acid   http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...e=pos...   Jun 23 2005, 01:06 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 23 2005, 1:06 AM)...   Jun 23 2005, 05:17 PM
sadolakced acid   ^ yea. was on the phone with sammi and people and...   Jun 24 2005, 12:25 AM
sammi rules you   YOU CAN'T KNOW. i so definitely saw him first...   Jun 24 2005, 12:42 AM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jun 24 2005, 12:42 AM...   Jun 26 2005, 02:40 AM
ichigofan   I support Stem Cell research because I was under t...   Jun 27 2005, 11:51 AM
insomniac   i can see why some people would think of embryonic...   Jun 29 2005, 05:50 PM
sadolakced acid   i would like to point out that: the source of emb...   Feb 7 2006, 10:58 PM
anoniez   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Feb 7 2006, 9:58 PM)i...   Feb 7 2006, 11:09 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Feb 7 2006, 10:58 PM)...   Feb 7 2006, 11:11 PM
sadolakced acid   yes, every single time. the term adult stem cell...   Feb 7 2006, 11:13 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Feb 7 2006, 11:13 PM)...   Feb 7 2006, 11:13 PM
sadolakced acid   aborted feotuses are the source for adult stem cel...   Feb 7 2006, 11:18 PM
anoniez   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Feb 7 2006, 10:18 PM)...   Feb 16 2006, 09:31 PM
sadolakced acid   well; i'll admit it's probably dated info...   Feb 18 2006, 08:47 PM
Evil_One1   Compare the amount of tiny, little embryos to the ...   Jul 29 2006, 12:56 AM
ichigofan   I support stem cell research because it could help...   Aug 3 2006, 02:25 PM
sarahc143   stem cell research should not be attempted because...   Aug 28 2006, 12:01 AM
disco infiltrator   The most common source for stem cell research are ...   Aug 29 2006, 08:44 PM


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