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Jun 1 2005, 04:16 PM
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do you support stem-cell researching? why or why not?
should federal funding be given to these researchers? do you support embryonic or adult stem cells (or both)? |
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Jun 12 2005, 03:10 PM
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i don't think anyone has the right to decide what is morally acceptable for other people to do. each and every person has their own set of morals, different from anyone else's and people have the right to make their own choices. not everyone is going to bow down to one person's set of morals. if a person thinks it's morally acceptable for them to use a lab to create a kid because they want their DNA to be in their child, then so be it. you may not like it, and wouldn't do it yourself, and that's fine. but you don't have the right to tell them it's not right and to stop the couple from doing so.
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Jun 12 2005, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jun 12 2005, 4:10 PM) i don't think anyone has the right to decide what is morally acceptable for other people to do. each and every person has their own set of morals, different from anyone else's and people have the right to make their own choices. not everyone is going to bow down to one person's set of morals. if a person thinks it's morally acceptable for them to use a lab to create a kid because they want their DNA to be in their child, then so be it. you may not like it, and wouldn't do it yourself, and that's fine. but you don't have the right to tell them it's not right and to stop the couple from doing so. O.K, for that up there^^ thats true, we can;t make ppl choose the right thing to do, but that doesnt change thew fact that it is bad, and if every1 had their own set of morals to live by, that means that one person can think its "moral" to commit murder, so you can't tell him he's wrong b/c he has his own set of morals now doesnt he? hence, there has to be some sort of moral order, it isn't moral to kill someone with no just cause. Don't you see how your reasoning would bring the world into complete chaos!? QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 12 2005, 5:11 PM) Ah, my other favorite debate tactic--when you can't make a legitimate point, put words in someone else's mouth to make it look like he is unable to make a point. I do not agree that all eleven are "alive," nor did I ever say that--certainly not less than "10 sentances [sic]" above. You misunderstood my point about nurturing, so let me clarify for you. I do not consider a fertilized egg to be a "person." A person is a human who has been born, who has been introduced into an environment outside a womb and is nurtured in some way with the goal of turning that person into an adult. A fertilized egg is not "alive." It cannot exist outside of a womb. It is not living. as for that, don;t you see, he's not saying you deliberately said you considered those life, but that you end up contradicting yourself when first you say, these embryos have no potential to live (they are not alive, they cannot live, etc, anyway you want to put it) but in saying that "So one fertilized egg is implanted into the woman's uterus to develop into a baby" you disprove your your first statement, by showing that the embryo does have the potential to live! and henceforth is alive. Just because something cannot survive, outside of a certain environment, doesnt mean it isn't living... that's like saying, "oh, there's a baby crying in a trash can, it cant survive there, so it must not be living anymore" and by the statement "do not consider a fertilized egg to be a "person." A person is a human who has been born, who has been introduced into an environment outside a womb and is nurtured in some way with the goal of turning that person into an adult." that a 8 month year old baby, still in a mother's womb, who can feel and react to pain, and has all the characteristics of a normal human being, is not a person? as i said before, you cannot decide when someone gets a soul, or becomes a person. Oh, and by the way, for that same person with the smiley big mouthed face avatar (no offense, this is a friendly debate of course) for your information, any possible theory for evolution has been proven wrong, and I'm not saying i don't believe that we evolved, I actually do, however I also believe in something called an "ultimate designer" (a.k.a: God) so saying we are just more advanced forms of life, and the fact that we are smarter than other animals by chance, is completely bogus. |
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smile4me stem-cell research Jun 1 2005, 04:16 PM
Frankie weren't there topics on this already? i search... Jun 2 2005, 10:40 AM
waitwaitwait If it helps us and doesn't hurt anything in th... Jun 2 2005, 03:57 PM
smile4me QUOTE(waitwaitwait @ Jun 2 2005, 3:57 PM)If i... Jun 2 2005, 06:18 PM
mona lisa QUOTE(smile4me @ Jun 2 2005, 7:18 PM)would ki... Jun 2 2005, 06:40 PM
smile4me QUOTE(gotnoheart @ Jun 2 2005, 6:40 PM)Althou... Jun 2 2005, 07:20 PM
ItzOnlySydney ^ agreed, it's helps =) Jun 2 2005, 03:58 PM
not_your_average I support all kinds of stem-cell research. Embryon... Jun 2 2005, 07:18 PM
sadolakced acid embryonic stem cells don't come from anything ... Jun 2 2005, 11:25 PM
x_signhere mm.. right it's just like my view on abortion.... Jun 3 2005, 11:27 AM
b0st0ngrl If the carrier of the embryo decided to abort it t... Jun 3 2005, 11:31 AM
DisneyPrincessKate we watched a movie on stem cell research about 2 w... Jun 5 2005, 01:50 PM
not_your_average QUOTE(DisneyPrincessKate @ Jun 5 2005, 1:50 P... Jun 6 2005, 02:14 PM
mipadi QUOTE(DisneyPrincessKate @ Jun 5 2005, 2:50 P... Jun 8 2005, 07:44 AM
smile4me QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 8 2005, 7:44 AM)You make i... Jun 10 2005, 10:46 AM
sammi rules you ^ we're not killing potential babies..we'r... Jun 5 2005, 03:37 PM
BrandonSaunders A revolutionary breakthrough thanks to stem-cell r... Jun 5 2005, 04:47 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(DisneyPrincessKate @ Jun 5 2005, 1:50 P... Jun 6 2005, 08:52 PM
sadolakced acid read the f**king thread.
the entire f**king thre... Jun 10 2005, 03:38 PM
ghetosmurph There are many tales of the medical miracles ESCs ... Jun 11 2005, 09:04 PM
gotblog4me? O.k. ghetosmurph, I can't read the whole thing... Jun 11 2005, 10:50 PM
mipadi QUOTE(gotblog4me? @ Jun 11 2005, 11:50 PM)O.k... Jun 11 2005, 11:14 PM
ghetosmurph QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 11 2005, 11:14 PM)Here... Jun 12 2005, 12:29 PM
XoJennaoX QUOTE(ghetosmurph @ Jun 12 2005, 12:29 PM)who... Jun 12 2005, 01:47 PM
mipadi QUOTE(ghetosmurph @ Jun 12 2005, 1:29 PM)Now ... Jun 12 2005, 04:11 PM
ghetosmurph QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 12 2005, 4:11 PM)I do not ... Jun 12 2005, 04:44 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura I only supported if it used to preserve endanger s... Jun 12 2005, 12:01 AM
sadolakced acid please read the whole f.ucking thread. thank you... Jun 12 2005, 12:13 AM
ghetosmurph QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Jun 12 2005, 1:47 PM)Yes th... Jun 12 2005, 04:26 PM

Spirited Away I just wanted to address a couple of things in thi... Jun 13 2005, 05:42 PM
mipadi QUOTE(gotblog4me? @ Jun 12 2005, 5:44 PM)as f... Jun 12 2005, 04:57 PM
ghetosmurph QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 12 2005, 4:57 PM)Potential... Jun 12 2005, 05:32 PM
mipadi QUOTE(ghetosmurph @ Jun 12 2005, 6:32 PM)whic... Jun 12 2005, 05:54 PM
ghetosmurph QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 12 2005, 5:54 PM)That does... Jun 12 2005, 07:01 PM
mipadi It takes a lot of nerves to liken stem cell resear... Jun 12 2005, 04:32 PM
ghetosmurph QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 12 2005, 4:32 PM)It takes ... Jun 12 2005, 04:49 PM
gotblog4me? to mipadi: Personally, by ur last post, i think yo... Jun 12 2005, 04:45 PM
sammi rules you QUOTEany possible theory for evolution has been pr... Jun 12 2005, 05:25 PM
gotblog4me? QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jun 12 2005, 6:25 PM)... Jun 12 2005, 10:15 PM
sammi rules you ^ read my previous posts. killing (or should i say... Jun 12 2005, 05:40 PM
ghetosmurph QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jun 12 2005, 5:25 PM)... Jun 12 2005, 05:45 PM
sammi rules you QUOTEand if we take away you food, water and air, ... Jun 12 2005, 05:53 PM
ghetosmurph QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jun 12 2005, 5:40 PM)... Jun 12 2005, 06:02 PM
sammi rules you i, too, am tired of repeating myself.
embryos ca... Jun 12 2005, 06:16 PM
sammi rules you did you read my characteristics of a living organi... Jun 12 2005, 08:37 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTEwould ppl. who tell other ppl. to please read... Jun 12 2005, 08:46 PM
ghetosmurph but b/c it goes inactive, there is a time where it... Jun 12 2005, 08:50 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(ghetosmurph @ Jun 12 2005, 8:50 PM)but ... Jun 12 2005, 08:56 PM
sadolakced acid the fundamental difference between adult stem cell... Jun 12 2005, 08:54 PM
sammi rules you have you ever picked a flower? accidentally pulled... Jun 12 2005, 08:55 PM
ghetosmurph Since any cell in the perti dish can theoretically... Jun 12 2005, 09:37 PM
sadolakced acid because we don't have the technology to use AS... Jun 12 2005, 09:40 PM
ghetosmurph QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 12 2005, 9:40 PM)... Jun 12 2005, 11:13 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(ghetosmurph @ Jun 12 2005, 11:13 PM)umm... Jun 13 2005, 10:15 AM
sammi rules you ^ true, ASCs will not grow parts that ESCs are use... Jun 13 2005, 01:09 PM
sadolakced acid september 11th was alqueida forcing thier morals o... Jun 13 2005, 06:56 PM
sadolakced acid i would like to note:
the first person to grow e... Jun 20 2005, 12:33 AM
smile4me ohgeebus. i didn't realize there were so many ... Jun 22 2005, 10:34 PM
sadolakced acid http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...e=pos... Jun 23 2005, 01:06 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 23 2005, 1:06 AM)... Jun 23 2005, 05:17 PM
sadolakced acid ^ yea. was on the phone with sammi and people and... Jun 24 2005, 12:25 AM
sammi rules you YOU CAN'T KNOW.
i so definitely saw him first... Jun 24 2005, 12:42 AM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jun 24 2005, 12:42 AM... Jun 26 2005, 02:40 AM
ichigofan I support Stem Cell research because I was under t... Jun 27 2005, 11:51 AM
insomniac i can see why some people would think of embryonic... Jun 29 2005, 05:50 PM
sadolakced acid i would like to point out that:
the source of emb... Feb 7 2006, 10:58 PM
anoniez QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Feb 7 2006, 9:58 PM)i... Feb 7 2006, 11:09 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Feb 7 2006, 10:58 PM)... Feb 7 2006, 11:11 PM
sadolakced acid yes, every single time.
the term adult stem cell... Feb 7 2006, 11:13 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Feb 7 2006, 11:13 PM)... Feb 7 2006, 11:13 PM
sadolakced acid aborted feotuses are the source for adult stem cel... Feb 7 2006, 11:18 PM
anoniez QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Feb 7 2006, 10:18 PM)... Feb 16 2006, 09:31 PM
sadolakced acid well; i'll admit it's probably dated info... Feb 18 2006, 08:47 PM
Evil_One1 Compare the amount of tiny, little embryos to the ... Jul 29 2006, 12:56 AM
ichigofan I support stem cell research because it could help... Aug 3 2006, 02:25 PM
sarahc143 stem cell research should not be attempted because... Aug 28 2006, 12:01 AM
disco infiltrator The most common source for stem cell research are ... Aug 29 2006, 08:44 PM![]() ![]() |