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Paganism and WitchCraft
SasukeNaru
post Jun 24 2004, 07:39 PM
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Anyone believe this? I do.. the whole spiritual realms and energy and ppl who can wield powers.. yea thats true but the old salem witchtrials and folklore spread by word of mouth changed what witches really represented. They communed with the earth and summoned energies from it by either praying to a god or just being in tune with the earth. This is all stuff ive read and history books.. if im rong and if someone here is wiccan then please correct me. just wanted a view on stuff like this

Also- Satanism has NOTHING to do with witchcraft

lol if ur wondering why i looked this up, it was for my RPG lol
 
 
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likeachild
post May 26 2005, 12:31 AM
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you know why so many people are fascinated by this stuff?
they fool around with it and then they find out "Hey, it's real!"
DUH
don't mess around with the supernatural
you don't know what you're getting yourself into

well, isn't Jesus supernatural?
yes, He is....but He is a different person altogether
Unchangeable. Unshakeable. Irreplaceable.
God is, God was, God will always be 100% LOVE.

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Christianity teaches you to supress these natural feelings, the force of self-preservation for the greater common good. Why? Because it makes you a mindless sheep, following the flock and reciting quotes from an ancient book. You become so concerned with following a doctorine, staying "clean", supressing yourself, killing the being within you, your "soul" if you will, that you lose sight of what is really going on around you. There is no one controlling this mess. We create it, we live it. We will die in it. After we die, the world will keep spinning unless we blow it to oblivion or some natural disaster wipes it out. 99% of us will have no lasting impact on this earth to anyone except for our loved ones.

It is painful for people to accept that they are not important, that they are nothing more than a grain of sand upon the beach of humanity. Which is why the myths of creation, moral codes, fables, and tales of faith and belief have survived for so long in this world. People need to believe something, need to have something to hold onto. Some (if not most) people could not go on living without their beliefs to teather them to this world. It doesn't matter if they enjoy their life or not, as long as what comes after is pleasant. Hence Islam, where an infinite supply of virgins await the righteous in heaven. Deny everything in life and we'll give it you upon your death!!??!?!


whoa. a mindless sheep? no, Christianity is all about love. 100% LOVE. Read the Bible. The entire book is completely about God's love for me and you, and his majestic, masterpiece plan to save us. to redeem us. to LOVE us.
Maybe you'll understand if you actually find out what Christianity really is, instead of bashing down this form of Christianity that you believe, a belief which is NOT Christianity.

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There is no one controlling this mess. We create it, we live it. We will die in it. After we die, the world will keep spinning unless we blow it to oblivion or some natural disaster wipes it out. 99% of us will have no lasting impact on this earth to anyone except for our loved ones.


No one controlling this mess? This place is only a mess because we made it that way. We have free-will because God loves his creation and gives it to them as a gift. If you abuse this privilege, you can't blame Creator for not controlling it, He gave us the earth to live in and to take care of. It's our fault for breaking a perfect world.
It has no reflection on the person who made it.

There are no great religions. All of them stink. Including the watered down form of Christianity that exists today.
Jesus is not a belief or a religion. It's not something you choose to believe. He is REAL whether you believe it or not. Some people just refuse to see it until the world crumbles under their feet and everything they ever believed to be true will be proven utterly false
 
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post May 26 2005, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(v@por @ May 25 2005, 11:31 PM)
you know why so many people are fascinated by this stuff?
they fool around with it and then they find out "Hey, it's real!"
DUH
don't mess around with the supernatural
you don't know what you're getting yourself into

well, isn't Jesus supernatural?
yes, He is....but He is a different person altogether
Unchangeable. Unshakeable. Irreplaceable.
God is, God was, God will always be 100% LOVE.
whoa. a mindless sheep?  no, Christianity is all about love.  100% LOVE.  Read the Bible.  The entire book is completely about God's love for me and you, and his majestic, masterpiece plan to save us.  to redeem us.  to LOVE us.
Maybe you'll understand if you actually find out what Christianity really is, instead of bashing down this form of Christianity that you believe, a belief which is NOT Christianity.
No one controlling this mess?  This place is only a mess because we made it that way.  We have free-will because God loves his creation and gives it to them as a gift.  If you abuse this privilege, you can't blame Creator for not controlling it, He gave us the earth to live in and to take care of.  It's our fault for breaking a perfect world. 
It has no reflection on the person who made it.

There are no great religions.  All of them stink.  Including the watered down form of Christianity that exists today. 
Jesus is not a belief or a religion.  It's not something you choose to believe.  He is REAL whether you believe it or not.  Some people just refuse to see it until the world crumbles under their feet and everything they ever believed to be true will be proven utterly false
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If you misinterpret what I say, then I will say it again and make it clear. I speak from my perspective as a Satanist and a non-believer in the Christian faith. I do not aim to shoot any person or their beliefs down. I do not need to have someone re-state that the Chrisitan faith is about love. I must say, most so-called Christians do not practice this faith of love. They practice a faith of selective hatred. This is truth, look at where we are today. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, people saying that Islam is fake, when all it is a bastardized form of Christianity. Closer to the roots of Christianity than the forms of Christianity being practiced today.

Christianity is too much confliction to be true. God's will is unshakable, yet if you pray hard enough, you can change God's will to make a sick loved one get better? How does that even begin to make sense? Sometimes you pray and pray for an answer, a cure, a solution, anything and nothing happens? When then, was your faith not strong enough, was God too busy to answer?? When bad things happen to small children, like being killed, taken, raped, or molested, is that part of "God's Plan"??? If it is, it's a sick and mutated plan. Or when those things happen, are they just dismissed as the "work of the Devil"?? If children are really pure and sacred, their souls are truly their own and sin is "untransferrable", then why do these things happen to children?? They can't be used as pawns to pay for their parents sins....It just frustrates me, that no one, nothing can ever explain these types of things...

Then, there is this whole concept of "love for all". I do not promote this concept because I feel that it lackluster. As madchenallein said in her previous post, "even horribly evil people can be nice to people who are nice to them". That much is true. I do know for a fact that some people only pretend to be nice to you to get something from you and then once they get it, forget that you exist. I decided long ago that I was not going to deal with the fickleness of this "love". If love was truly in the hearts of who call themselves Christian, then this world would not be in the state is in. I will love those who love me, whom I trust with my life and my heart. I will not give my heart to just anybody. I will not rely on a mutual belief in an oft-repeated collection of fables to bind me to other people. I will seek the connections myself and make them with the most worthy. I do not hate those that I do not love, I do not look upon them as lesser or worthless. I look at them and I feel nothing towards them, a bland neutrality if you will. I will help those that ask for it but I will not help those who are too weak to ask.

I will end because I must attend to other things in the RW. If you are Christian, I do not mean to insult you or your beliefs or at least I did not mean to in this post or my previous post on this topic. My posts only reflect my beliefs, not yours. Be strong enough to counter but realistic enough to know that this world is ours for the moment and we must make the most of it while it is. stubborn.gif
 

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SasukeNaru   Paganism and WitchCraft   Jun 24 2004, 07:39 PM
Mini   withcraft HAS ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with satani...   Jun 24 2004, 07:42 PM
Frankie   QUOTE(Mini @ Jun 24 2004, 6:42 PM)withcraft H...   Feb 27 2005, 01:17 PM
not_your_average   QUOTE(Frankie @ Feb 27 2005, 1:17 PM)i though...   May 22 2005, 07:32 PM
pikimoo   Ugh.. I hate it when people think Sadism and Witch...   Jun 24 2004, 07:45 PM
ComradeRed   I sacrifice to Pallas Nike, Winged Goddess of Vict...   Jun 24 2004, 07:45 PM
sadolakced acid   paganism and witchcraft are different. pagans wor...   Jun 25 2004, 10:00 AM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 25 2004, 10:00 AM...   Jun 25 2004, 10:55 AM
sadolakced acid   praying to the lesser goddess does not bode well w...   Jun 25 2004, 10:57 AM
Retrogressive   well i barely know any about it (all i know is rea...   Jun 25 2004, 04:47 PM
Kathleen   I was going to convert to Wiccan. I suppose I was ...   Jun 25 2004, 05:37 PM
ComradeRed   What... the... hell...? What spells are these Kat...   Jun 25 2004, 06:23 PM
Kathleen   Haha. Oh just spells to make me win more Lincoln-D...   Jun 25 2004, 06:31 PM
y0urmistake   i went through the witchcraft phaze.. have a book ...   Jun 25 2004, 06:31 PM
Mini   i heard of wiccan before, ooooooooo too bad i dont...   Jun 25 2004, 06:32 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jun 25 2004, 6:31 PM)Haha. O...   Jun 25 2004, 07:16 PM
Mini   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jun 25 2004, 7:16 PM)Aha...   Jun 25 2004, 07:22 PM
ComradeRed   Damnit, curses are the funnest spells. Bireme ......   Jun 25 2004, 07:25 PM
Mini   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jun 25 2004, 7:25 PM)Damni...   Jun 25 2004, 07:31 PM
ComradeRed   I'll have to lure them to my evil island and f...   Jun 25 2004, 07:41 PM
LaRevolucion   Wicca...I once wanted to convert. I even told my m...   Jun 25 2004, 09:42 PM
JlIaTMK   ive always been interested in this subject and the...   Jun 25 2004, 10:15 PM
RiddleMeWonders   QUOTE(JlIaTMK @ Jun 25 2004, 10:15 PM)but onc...   May 21 2005, 10:14 AM
SasukeNaru   Its a real tough topic... so much controversy and ...   Jun 26 2004, 02:20 AM
DavidxN   whoa what a cool and wierd topic, i always thought...   Jun 26 2004, 12:51 PM
lovebabygonebad   HEY IMMA WITCH. LOL. Just thought i'd say so....   Feb 22 2005, 02:53 AM
Jinjjasanaee   witchcraft... I think it's real. I think when ...   Feb 22 2005, 03:01 AM
angel-roh   uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh witchcraft is more li...   Feb 24 2005, 04:21 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(angel-roh @ Feb 24 2005, 4:21 PM)u...   Feb 25 2005, 12:31 AM
lovebabygonebad   QUOTE(angel-roh @ Feb 24 2005, 4:21 PM)u...   Feb 26 2005, 07:06 PM
not_your_average   QUOTE(angel-roh @ Feb 24 2005, 4:21 PM)u...   May 22 2005, 07:28 PM
inlonelinessidie   QUOTE(angel-roh @ Feb 24 2005, 2:21 PM)u...   Oct 17 2005, 05:44 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   oh wow, that's a very interesting topic. i was...   Feb 26 2005, 07:24 PM
ShEraBaRoO   whether its linked to SATAN or not, all witchcraft...   Feb 27 2005, 11:54 AM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(ShEraBaRoO @ Feb 27 2005, 10:54 AM)whet...   Feb 27 2005, 01:09 PM
thait3n   its intresting stuff, thats for sure Though, i r...   Feb 27 2005, 07:01 PM
f4113n   the salem witch trials, literally, were caused by ...   Feb 28 2005, 03:40 PM
picaso_smile   You know what? I may think witchcraft and satanism...   Feb 28 2005, 03:49 PM
iwalkbackwards   I'm on the edge, but I don' believe in the...   Mar 18 2005, 08:54 AM
aznxdreamer   i went through this whole phase where i thought i ...   Mar 26 2005, 09:30 PM
LtothePisLifeForMe   heh heh iwalkbackwards.. I'm your best friend ...   Mar 29 2005, 07:12 AM
wounded   Wicca is cool. I mean, I'm Catholic and all, b...   Apr 6 2005, 05:50 PM
DislocatedPuppet   Aughness. I am wicca, so I will explain the views...   May 20 2005, 07:18 PM
sadolakced acid   pagan= a name given by the christians to the reli...   May 20 2005, 07:28 PM
XoJennaoX   I'm aware that witches are way more than the w...   May 21 2005, 04:46 PM
madchenallein   I realize most of the 'Christian' world ou...   May 24 2005, 12:50 AM
antix10_kos   There is so much anger in this world. There is so ...   May 25 2005, 11:53 AM
v@por   you know why so many people are fascinated by this...   May 26 2005, 12:31 AM
antix10_kos   QUOTE(v@por @ May 25 2005, 11:31 PM)you know ...   May 26 2005, 01:11 PM
madchenallein   Huzzah, v@por! What I see when I walk down t...   May 26 2005, 02:22 AM
v@por   QUOTEChristianity is too much confliction to be tr...   May 26 2005, 11:39 PM
antix10_kos   You say that everything is based on the free will ...   May 27 2005, 10:33 AM
v@por   QUOTE(antix10_kos @ May 27 2005, 10:33 AM)I d...   May 27 2005, 07:53 PM
sammi rules you   ^ because it's not like he worships satan; mor...   May 27 2005, 11:31 PM
JlIaTMK   QUOTE(touch my monkey @ May 28 2005, 12:31 AM...   Jun 11 2005, 04:10 PM
Melissad1016   I have an aunt who practices wicca and is very hap...   May 30 2005, 05:59 PM
iNyCxShoRT   I believe in it. I believe that there are vampires...   Jun 3 2005, 07:57 PM
not_for_anything   Actually, witchcraft is manipulation a simple deff...   Jun 9 2005, 01:27 PM
crayonzUpMyNose   i dont know if its true or not but that kind of st...   Jun 12 2005, 09:03 PM
TaintedDesires   Wiccan is not satanism. Only reason christians thi...   Jun 16 2005, 02:03 PM
Bridget_rules_4eva   my friend is a wiccan person and i might get into ...   Oct 8 2005, 12:09 PM
xnofearx   I believe in Ki, which is spiritual energy. Once y...   Oct 8 2005, 04:25 PM
andromeda_90   I agree about witchcraft not having to do anything...   Oct 8 2005, 10:47 PM
andromeda_90   Witchcraft has NOTHING to do with Satan. Back then...   Oct 22 2005, 10:24 AM
Boyfriendless   I am a modern satanist, sort of, the name kind of ...   Feb 2 2006, 02:36 AM
broken inside   Wicca sounds like the most stupid thing I've e...   Jul 23 2006, 07:35 PM


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