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Paganism and WitchCraft
SasukeNaru
post Jun 24 2004, 07:39 PM
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Anyone believe this? I do.. the whole spiritual realms and energy and ppl who can wield powers.. yea thats true but the old salem witchtrials and folklore spread by word of mouth changed what witches really represented. They communed with the earth and summoned energies from it by either praying to a god or just being in tune with the earth. This is all stuff ive read and history books.. if im rong and if someone here is wiccan then please correct me. just wanted a view on stuff like this

Also- Satanism has NOTHING to do with witchcraft

lol if ur wondering why i looked this up, it was for my RPG lol
 
 
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madchenallein
post May 26 2005, 02:22 AM
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Huzzah, v@por!
What I see when I walk down the street in the US, and in Korea, where I live now, is selfishness, worldliness, greed and hate.

No one can say that true Christians are the majority and that by being a yogi, or following Wicca, or being a Pagan they are 'bucking the system'. Those are so trendy right now. You know what isn't trendy? Denying yourself, forgiving others, admitting TO THE PERSON YOU WRONGED that you were wrong. (Not saying to yourself in your heart 'yeah, I was wrong I shouldn't have done that, I'll do better', but going to that person and saying that, then ASKING for forgiveness).

You can't even go to WALMART, much less any mall in the US, without being assaulted by SEX selling everything. Sin IS mainstream. You can't even go to a Disney movie anymore without being assailed by the glorification of 'earth-based' religion, cases in point: Pocahontas, Fantasia 2000, The Lion King. But, beyond Disney, I'd say a PG-13 movie now, is what an R movie was 15 years ago.
Greed: Buy more! Buy this, get that half price!
Hate: Don't like the body God gave you or you have destroyed the body God gave you? Here, take this to bleach your skin, straighten your hair, melt the fat.
Wordliness: You're a good person if you have this, buy this, wear that, use that...
Selfishness: Marketing campaigns telling you to 'indulge yourself', like most Americans don't do that anyway, everyday.

Even here in Korea these things, wordliness, selfishness, immorality are prevalent, women walk around in skimpy, tight clothes. That's not loving what God gave you, that's 'sheep behavior'; it's popular so I'll do it. I'll show men everywhere my body, I don't care. Well, why don't you save that for your future spouse? And that's just one example.

If I could classify any behavior as 'sheep' behavior, I'd say being part of the trendy, Harry Potter or 'there is no god-god is in everything' or 'I am god' crowd is sheep behavior. These people don't have the guts to say, Wait a minute, I'm not going to dress this way because it's popular-it's immodest. I'm not going to say these things or do these things that 'everybody' does-it's immoral and disrespectful.

I'm not being down on Americans, or Koreans, I'm just saying that these so called 'elevated principles' of goodness to people, goodness to the earth, positive energy, positive thoughts; they're ridiculous. It takes NO education to say 'Oh, you're nice to me, I'll be nice to you' even horribly evil people can be nice to people who are nice to them. What takes courage is to be kind to someone that, in being kind to them, it profits you nothing or, hey, even you may have to go out of your way to be kind. Most people are too caught up in self love to do that. Only the love of Christ can do that, through a person who understands it is not their own love leading them to show the kindness, but that of the Holy Spirit through them.

Anyway, enough of that. I am convinced that most people who are in earth based religions, or are pagan, follow that path because they were not raised in church or they have misconceptions about the Bible, or they have allowed a hypocrite to turn them away from Christ. I feel the best witness to these people is just to be kind to them and help them and not preach to them in general. But, since this is debate I've got my little soapbox here, don't worry, I'm putting it away.
I used to let hypocrites turn me off from going to Church, but a very simple idea caught my attention and makes sense even if it is a little trite:I'd rather go to church with hypocrites than burn in hell with them.

Peace be with you all.
 

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SasukeNaru   Paganism and WitchCraft   Jun 24 2004, 07:39 PM
Mini   withcraft HAS ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with satani...   Jun 24 2004, 07:42 PM
Frankie   QUOTE(Mini @ Jun 24 2004, 6:42 PM)withcraft H...   Feb 27 2005, 01:17 PM
not_your_average   QUOTE(Frankie @ Feb 27 2005, 1:17 PM)i though...   May 22 2005, 07:32 PM
pikimoo   Ugh.. I hate it when people think Sadism and Witch...   Jun 24 2004, 07:45 PM
ComradeRed   I sacrifice to Pallas Nike, Winged Goddess of Vict...   Jun 24 2004, 07:45 PM
sadolakced acid   paganism and witchcraft are different. pagans wor...   Jun 25 2004, 10:00 AM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 25 2004, 10:00 AM...   Jun 25 2004, 10:55 AM
sadolakced acid   praying to the lesser goddess does not bode well w...   Jun 25 2004, 10:57 AM
Retrogressive   well i barely know any about it (all i know is rea...   Jun 25 2004, 04:47 PM
Kathleen   I was going to convert to Wiccan. I suppose I was ...   Jun 25 2004, 05:37 PM
ComradeRed   What... the... hell...? What spells are these Kat...   Jun 25 2004, 06:23 PM
Kathleen   Haha. Oh just spells to make me win more Lincoln-D...   Jun 25 2004, 06:31 PM
y0urmistake   i went through the witchcraft phaze.. have a book ...   Jun 25 2004, 06:31 PM
Mini   i heard of wiccan before, ooooooooo too bad i dont...   Jun 25 2004, 06:32 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jun 25 2004, 6:31 PM)Haha. O...   Jun 25 2004, 07:16 PM
Mini   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jun 25 2004, 7:16 PM)Aha...   Jun 25 2004, 07:22 PM
ComradeRed   Damnit, curses are the funnest spells. Bireme ......   Jun 25 2004, 07:25 PM
Mini   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jun 25 2004, 7:25 PM)Damni...   Jun 25 2004, 07:31 PM
ComradeRed   I'll have to lure them to my evil island and f...   Jun 25 2004, 07:41 PM
LaRevolucion   Wicca...I once wanted to convert. I even told my m...   Jun 25 2004, 09:42 PM
JlIaTMK   ive always been interested in this subject and the...   Jun 25 2004, 10:15 PM
RiddleMeWonders   QUOTE(JlIaTMK @ Jun 25 2004, 10:15 PM)but onc...   May 21 2005, 10:14 AM
SasukeNaru   Its a real tough topic... so much controversy and ...   Jun 26 2004, 02:20 AM
DavidxN   whoa what a cool and wierd topic, i always thought...   Jun 26 2004, 12:51 PM
lovebabygonebad   HEY IMMA WITCH. LOL. Just thought i'd say so....   Feb 22 2005, 02:53 AM
Jinjjasanaee   witchcraft... I think it's real. I think when ...   Feb 22 2005, 03:01 AM
angel-roh   uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh witchcraft is more li...   Feb 24 2005, 04:21 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(angel-roh @ Feb 24 2005, 4:21 PM)u...   Feb 25 2005, 12:31 AM
lovebabygonebad   QUOTE(angel-roh @ Feb 24 2005, 4:21 PM)u...   Feb 26 2005, 07:06 PM
not_your_average   QUOTE(angel-roh @ Feb 24 2005, 4:21 PM)u...   May 22 2005, 07:28 PM
inlonelinessidie   QUOTE(angel-roh @ Feb 24 2005, 2:21 PM)u...   Oct 17 2005, 05:44 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   oh wow, that's a very interesting topic. i was...   Feb 26 2005, 07:24 PM
ShEraBaRoO   whether its linked to SATAN or not, all witchcraft...   Feb 27 2005, 11:54 AM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(ShEraBaRoO @ Feb 27 2005, 10:54 AM)whet...   Feb 27 2005, 01:09 PM
thait3n   its intresting stuff, thats for sure Though, i r...   Feb 27 2005, 07:01 PM
f4113n   the salem witch trials, literally, were caused by ...   Feb 28 2005, 03:40 PM
picaso_smile   You know what? I may think witchcraft and satanism...   Feb 28 2005, 03:49 PM
iwalkbackwards   I'm on the edge, but I don' believe in the...   Mar 18 2005, 08:54 AM
aznxdreamer   i went through this whole phase where i thought i ...   Mar 26 2005, 09:30 PM
LtothePisLifeForMe   heh heh iwalkbackwards.. I'm your best friend ...   Mar 29 2005, 07:12 AM
wounded   Wicca is cool. I mean, I'm Catholic and all, b...   Apr 6 2005, 05:50 PM
DislocatedPuppet   Aughness. I am wicca, so I will explain the views...   May 20 2005, 07:18 PM
sadolakced acid   pagan= a name given by the christians to the reli...   May 20 2005, 07:28 PM
XoJennaoX   I'm aware that witches are way more than the w...   May 21 2005, 04:46 PM
madchenallein   I realize most of the 'Christian' world ou...   May 24 2005, 12:50 AM
antix10_kos   There is so much anger in this world. There is so ...   May 25 2005, 11:53 AM
v@por   you know why so many people are fascinated by this...   May 26 2005, 12:31 AM
antix10_kos   QUOTE(v@por @ May 25 2005, 11:31 PM)you know ...   May 26 2005, 01:11 PM
madchenallein   Huzzah, v@por! What I see when I walk down t...   May 26 2005, 02:22 AM
v@por   QUOTEChristianity is too much confliction to be tr...   May 26 2005, 11:39 PM
antix10_kos   You say that everything is based on the free will ...   May 27 2005, 10:33 AM
v@por   QUOTE(antix10_kos @ May 27 2005, 10:33 AM)I d...   May 27 2005, 07:53 PM
sammi rules you   ^ because it's not like he worships satan; mor...   May 27 2005, 11:31 PM
JlIaTMK   QUOTE(touch my monkey @ May 28 2005, 12:31 AM...   Jun 11 2005, 04:10 PM
Melissad1016   I have an aunt who practices wicca and is very hap...   May 30 2005, 05:59 PM
iNyCxShoRT   I believe in it. I believe that there are vampires...   Jun 3 2005, 07:57 PM
not_for_anything   Actually, witchcraft is manipulation a simple deff...   Jun 9 2005, 01:27 PM
crayonzUpMyNose   i dont know if its true or not but that kind of st...   Jun 12 2005, 09:03 PM
TaintedDesires   Wiccan is not satanism. Only reason christians thi...   Jun 16 2005, 02:03 PM
Bridget_rules_4eva   my friend is a wiccan person and i might get into ...   Oct 8 2005, 12:09 PM
xnofearx   I believe in Ki, which is spiritual energy. Once y...   Oct 8 2005, 04:25 PM
andromeda_90   I agree about witchcraft not having to do anything...   Oct 8 2005, 10:47 PM
andromeda_90   Witchcraft has NOTHING to do with Satan. Back then...   Oct 22 2005, 10:24 AM
Boyfriendless   I am a modern satanist, sort of, the name kind of ...   Feb 2 2006, 02:36 AM
broken inside   Wicca sounds like the most stupid thing I've e...   Jul 23 2006, 07:35 PM


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