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Santo Subito, Immediate Sainthood of Pope John Paul II |
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During the funeral of Pope John Paul II in Saint Peter's Basilica and Square, I noticed that thousands of People, mostly Poles, briefly interrupted the funeral of John Paul II with calls for his immediate canonization, with voices saying "Santo Subito,"(immediate Sainthood) and banners saying the same exact words. In your opinion, do you think Pope John Paul II should be decalred a Saint from his future successor? Why?
Since, according to the Vatican, it is highly possible that Pope John Paul II will be recognized as a saint, I consequently agree with the declaration of Pope John Paul II to Sainthood, because the Pope " testify to the public respect that he gained. As his mission by virtue of his office, Pope John Paul II emphasised what he called the universal call to holiness and attempted to define the Roman Catholic Church's role in the modern world. He spoke out against communism, imperialism, materialism, Nazism, racism, oppression and unrestrained capitalism. He defended traditional Roman Catholic teachings on human life by opposing abortion, contraception, human cloning, capital punishment, euthanasia, and war. He also defended traditional Roman Catholic teachings on marriage by opposing divorce and same-sex marriage." So, what do you think? |
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What uninspiredfae said is correct. It's not really a question of what Catholics the world over, or in Poland, or wherever, want. The Catholic Church has a process for canonizing people and it's necessary to have a waiting period. Partly because one of the requirements for sainthood is having miracles attributed to a soul's intercession with the Holy Spirit after that person has died, and partly because the Church wants to be sure that people and events around the candidate's life span do not unduly influence their canonization. On an interesting side note, check into the role of the devil's advocate (not the movie), which is a real job within the Catholic Church. The Church values accuracy and is careful about affirming what may or may not manifest God's presence or love.
In that light, the whole concept of canonizing someone officially is for the benefit of the Catholic people-those people who accept the tenets of the Catholic Church, so whether a person attains 'sainthood' as given by the Church, or not really only matters to Catholics. It's not a question of someone having the potential to do good or saying a dead person was or wasn't good, or 'good enough'. The Church, in canonizing someone, is only saying they are in heaven, not they are the ONLY ones in heaven. The technical definition of saint can vary, I suppose, but I have always understood it to have at least two meanings: 1 a person, living or dead, who follows the teachings of Jesus Christ in their heart and manifests those teachings in their daily lives in issues large AND small, and 2 a person canonized by the Catholic Church. I am not saying Pope John Paul II does not deserve canonization, I'm just saying, let the Church do what it does and be patient. Finally, I have read a lot of misconceptions about the Catholic faith here in this thread. The Catholic catechism, official teaching of the Church, does NOT say we have to go through someone else to talk to God. NOR does it say a priest forgives us of our sins. Contrary to what many non-Catholics and probably even some Catholics believe, the Church does not say you have to have the rite of reconciliation (Confession) to be forgiven. They encourage it often, but REQUIRE it at least once a year, because one of the main jobs of the Church is to foster the spiritual growth of its members, and if we have sin in our hearts, we are growing apart from God, not closer. Confession has roots in the Bible and in psychology. Catholic or nonCatholic, don't make sweeping generalizations about the Church without consulting the catechism, not your best friend, or your priest, or your mom, or the internet. Best wishes. |
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