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war in iraq
brian_deegan
post Apr 21 2004, 01:28 AM
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do you support it or no?
 
 
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post Apr 22 2004, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(dasturbd @ Apr 22 2004, 2:03 PM)
You then come in contact with the unreasonable, the Kamikazes so to say. The ones that don't give a crap about human life, even their own. These people may just pull a trump card and decide to push their "red button" one day...and we just simply can't allow that.

First of all, that's a misunderstanding about Kamikaze. Japanese men sacrificed their own lives for their country and for their emperor. Now, from a Christian or "modern" point of view, that seems "wrong" because the belief in western countries is to respect your own life. However, what a lot of western people don't seem to understand is the cultural gap between themselves and other countries. In a lot of Asian countries, people like to work as a group, rather than show individuality, and have a leader to which they honor. Whether people regard this as "primative" or "unfair" is another problem.

The Vietnam War, for example - the people there were poor and were about to be ruled by a communist government, but were they unhappy? I'm sure they were happier before their whole country was being bombed by napalm and Agent Orange by the Allies who believed that the Vietnamese would be "happier" living in a western culture. And what's the result? A totally useless war wasting a lot of lives and money - sort of like what this war in Iraq is ending up to be.

Another thing, catching Bin Laden and punishing him will NOT change anything. Terrorism doesn't work like that. Destroying one organisation will just give rise to another, as long as there's hate - and believe me, there's alot of it out there. I say, catching Bin Laden would just make things worse, because he's got a legendary status in the middle east.
 

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brian_deegan   war in iraq   Apr 21 2004, 01:28 AM
dani41790   i dont support da war in iraq   Apr 21 2004, 01:47 AM
xplicitmizz23   i dont support war. period.   Apr 21 2004, 01:59 AM
poisonedxivy   nope ... don't support it =x   Apr 21 2004, 02:59 AM
tkproduce   doesn't bother me   Apr 21 2004, 05:50 AM
kryogenix   I support it. And i'll state a reason too, unl...   Apr 21 2004, 05:58 AM
starling   I support it too. I think it was something that n...   Apr 21 2004, 07:48 AM
instantmusic   I support the troops in Iraq. Not the war.   Apr 21 2004, 09:46 AM
x0xcrzybabyx0x   ew war in iraq? no support from me at all! i m...   Apr 21 2004, 09:58 AM
Kathleen   Hey, I support it simply because I don't want ...   Apr 21 2004, 11:35 AM
tkproduce   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Apr 21 2004, 4:35 PM)Hey, I ...   Apr 21 2004, 11:46 AM
fiji_kid   i am just over the fence.. lol.. the side the wind...   Apr 21 2004, 12:29 PM
dasturbd   I definitely support it, and all those that don...   Apr 21 2004, 12:38 PM
dasturbd   QUOTE(x0xcrzybabyx0x @ Apr 21 2004, 9:58 AM)e...   Apr 21 2004, 12:40 PM
Kathleen   QUOTE(tkproduce @ Apr 21 2004, 12:46 PM)isn...   Apr 21 2004, 02:14 PM
stryker76   I do not support the war at all....but i support o...   Apr 21 2004, 02:49 PM
dasturbd   QUOTE(stryker76 @ Apr 21 2004, 2:49 PM)I do n...   Apr 21 2004, 02:52 PM
Kathleen   Yeah...he still hasn't been found... Should we...   Apr 21 2004, 02:58 PM
tkproduce   this sounds like people are saying the life of an ...   Apr 21 2004, 03:32 PM
Kathleen   What about you? You don't seem to think defend...   Apr 21 2004, 04:36 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(x0xcrzybabyx0x @ Apr 21 2004, 9:58 AM)e...   Apr 21 2004, 05:46 PM
LinknPrk__003   I only support the soilders in iraq notr the war g...   Apr 21 2004, 05:57 PM
stryker76   I think we need to pull out of iraq....the people ...   Apr 21 2004, 06:07 PM
kevinma03   We should have went into North Korea before we wen...   Apr 21 2004, 06:12 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(stryker76 @ Apr 21 2004, 6:07 PM)I thin...   Apr 21 2004, 06:18 PM
dasturbd   QUOTE(kevinma03 @ Apr 21 2004, 6:12 PM)We sho...   Apr 21 2004, 06:32 PM
dasturbd   QUOTE(stryker76 @ Apr 21 2004, 6:07 PM)I thin...   Apr 21 2004, 06:41 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(kevinma03 @ Apr 21 2004, 6:12 PM)We sho...   Apr 21 2004, 06:48 PM
xjjajeengx   wow kyro, you know so much. anyways, i personall...   Apr 21 2004, 11:15 PM
x0xcrzybabyx0x   QUOTEprove it. it's only a conspiracy theory u...   Apr 21 2004, 11:54 PM
tkproduce   I don't see why the American government can sa...   Apr 22 2004, 02:13 AM
starling   as long as there are other countries with nuclear ...   Apr 22 2004, 07:46 AM
dasturbd   QUOTE(tkproduce @ Apr 22 2004, 2:13 AM)I don...   Apr 22 2004, 09:03 AM
angel-roh   iono...-_-;; but i reallie wana help those ppls wh...   Apr 22 2004, 09:10 AM
dasturbd   QUOTE(x0xcrzybabyx0x @ Apr 21 2004, 11:54 PM)...   Apr 22 2004, 09:20 AM
starling   QUOTE(x0xcrzybabyx0x @ Apr 22 2004, 12:54 AM)...   Apr 22 2004, 09:30 AM
Kathleen   QUOTE(tkproduce @ Apr 22 2004, 3:13 AM)Well, ...   Apr 22 2004, 09:50 AM
tkproduce   QUOTE(dasturbd @ Apr 22 2004, 2:03 PM)You the...   Apr 22 2004, 11:02 AM
Kathleen   QUOTE(tkproduce @ Apr 22 2004, 12:02 PM)First...   Apr 22 2004, 11:20 AM
tkproduce   wow. chill. I'm just trying to suggest another...   Apr 22 2004, 12:04 PM
x0xcrzybabyx0x   QUOTEPropaganda at it's finest haha right..th...   Apr 22 2004, 12:49 PM
dasturbd   QUOTE(tkproduce @ Apr 22 2004, 12:04 PM)wow. ...   Apr 22 2004, 12:52 PM
dasturbd   QUOTE(x0xcrzybabyx0x @ Apr 22 2004, 12:49 PM)...   Apr 22 2004, 01:00 PM
tkproduce   oh, I don't know - don't care anymore... f...   Apr 22 2004, 02:16 PM
x0xcrzybabyx0x   haha man.. with every new post this argument gets ...   Apr 22 2004, 02:21 PM
juliar   QUOTE(dasturbd @ Apr 22 2004, 1:00 PM)Bush Li...   Apr 22 2004, 02:27 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTEThe Vietnam War, for example - the people the...   Apr 22 2004, 02:50 PM
juliar   QUOTEOkay, then lets stop tracking him down and le...   Apr 22 2004, 02:53 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTEOne terrorist, you realize how many more can ...   Apr 22 2004, 03:07 PM
Mireh   I seriously think that the US should just keep out...   Apr 22 2004, 03:15 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTEI seriously think that the US should just kee...   Apr 22 2004, 03:21 PM
juliar   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Apr 22 2004, 3:21 PM)Be...   Apr 22 2004, 03:29 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTEAiya, why does the world's problem have t...   Apr 22 2004, 03:34 PM
juliar   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Apr 22 2004, 3:34 PM)Um...   Apr 22 2004, 03:36 PM
x0xcrzybabyx0x   haha okay.. first of all.. we are NOT and i repea...   Apr 22 2004, 03:39 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTEFirst, we should take care of all the knots i...   Apr 22 2004, 03:40 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTEwe are NOT and i repeat NOT in iraq to ...   Apr 22 2004, 03:48 PM
x0xcrzybabyx0x   haha.. alright.. *sigh* .. here we go again.. QUOT...   Apr 22 2004, 03:59 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTEokay like any country in africa! .. Funn...   Apr 22 2004, 04:17 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEfirst of all.. we are NOT and i repeat NOT in...   Apr 22 2004, 04:35 PM
tkproduce   okay, let's admit it level of importance from...   Apr 22 2004, 04:36 PM
Kathleen   Well, if I could, I would vote, and that would be ...   Apr 22 2004, 04:45 PM
m@dcow   we started it why?   Apr 22 2004, 04:47 PM
Kathleen   Umm...to defend our country from Saddam...for one....   Apr 22 2004, 05:11 PM
kevinma03   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Apr 22 2004, 5:11 PM)Umm...t...   Apr 22 2004, 05:19 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(x0xcrzybabyx0x @ Apr 21 2004, 11:54 PM)...   Apr 22 2004, 05:47 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTEIraq didn't pose a tactical threat to the...   Apr 22 2004, 06:54 PM
dasturbd   "Dictators" cause a threat to everyone, ...   Apr 22 2004, 07:38 PM
tkproduce   QUOTE(dasturbd @ Apr 23 2004, 12:38 AM)...   Apr 23 2004, 01:51 AM
immersion31   i support it   Apr 23 2004, 01:52 AM
dasturbd   well this was a nice little debate here, but I thi...   Apr 23 2004, 08:43 AM
tkproduce   well reading and watching the recent news, the war...   May 1 2004, 06:27 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(tkproduce @ May 1 2004, 6:27 AM)well re...   May 1 2004, 07:11 AM
tkproduce   QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 1 2004, 12:11 PM)not re...   May 1 2004, 08:01 AM
xscore   i dont support it...and i think america SERI0USLY ...   May 1 2004, 08:02 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(xscore @ May 1 2004, 8:02 AM)i dont sup...   May 1 2004, 08:10 AM
tkproduce   QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 1 2004, 1:10 PM)we lear...   May 1 2004, 08:16 AM
xscore   QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 1 2004, 8:10 AM)we lear...   May 1 2004, 09:15 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(xscore @ May 1 2004, 9:15 AM)well ameri...   May 1 2004, 09:57 AM
tkproduce   QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 1 2004, 2:57 PM)I think...   May 1 2004, 12:59 PM
dasturbd   N. korea's missles are for defense?? LOL...   May 1 2004, 01:16 PM
dasturbd   QUOTEwhy were there clearly more black people bein...   May 1 2004, 01:19 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTEso what would have happened if the US had ...   May 1 2004, 04:27 PM
tkproduce   the idea behind communism is a very good one. it...   May 2 2004, 04:44 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTEThe peak of their paranoia was probably illus...   May 2 2004, 02:56 PM
kryogenix   alright, lets get back on topic. It's the War ...   May 2 2004, 04:23 PM
annchovie   *sigh...i guess there's no preventing it....bu...   May 2 2004, 04:28 PM
tkproduce   One is left with the horrible feeling now that war...   May 3 2004, 04:55 AM
Spirited Away   yes yes, all of those quotes are all nice and good...   May 3 2004, 09:55 AM
tkproduce   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 3 2004, 2:55 PM)yes...   May 3 2004, 12:24 PM
F_L_I_P   did you guys know what they were doing to the iraq...   May 3 2004, 12:28 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(F_L_I_P @ May 3 2004, 12:28 PM)did you ...   May 3 2004, 01:48 PM
Kathleen   QUOTE(tkproduce @ May 3 2004, 1:24 PM)I don...   May 3 2004, 02:01 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTEI don't think I can make up a decision on...   May 3 2004, 02:58 PM
tkproduce   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 3 2004, 7:58 PM)So ...   May 3 2004, 03:37 PM
Spirited Away   *scratches head*, I think I told you to do the sam...   May 3 2004, 03:41 PM
tkproduce   Sorry if I've misled all of you. As a matter ...   May 3 2004, 03:50 PM
Spirited Away   Ah, I see, how fun it is to try to argue the other...   May 3 2004, 03:56 PM
onenonly101   These are my feelings about the war... We were go...   May 3 2004, 04:09 PM
tkproduce   I think it's more likely that his work place o...   May 3 2004, 04:09 PM
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