ipod mini or creative zen? Options

[sweetxsimplicity]

..i'm not good with all this technology and pros and cons stuff, and i dunno which to get and who to believe. some people are like "omg only posers have ipods!!" and some people are like "ipods are wayy better than those mp3 players!" help me decide.

well, anyway, these are my pros and cons

mini: nicer, not many features, costs $100 to get replace battery
zen: uglier, a few more features, costs $40 to replace battery, UGLIER (<-- thats what im most concerned about, lol. ><)

[sadolakced acid]

sweetxsimplicity, get the micro.

why?

1- it lights up the buttons.

2- you can record lectures (i assume you're still in school. this is a big plus)

3- it sounds better

4- you can listen to the radio if you get tired of your tunes.

5- it's got a removable battery. buy two, and you double your battery life. it's very cheap to replace when it runs out (compared to other players)

[sweetxsimplicity]

sweetxsimplicity, get the micro.

why? 

1- it lights up the buttons.

2- you can record lectures (i assume you're still in school.  this is a big plus) 

3- it sounds better

4- you can listen to the radio if you get tired of your tunes.

5- it's got a removable battery.  buy two, and you double your battery life.  it's very cheap to replace when it runs out (compared to other players)

i don't really care about the light up buttons, no electronics at school, actually, most people say the ipod mini sounds better, because its db or something like that is higher, but only by a little, so you can hardly tell the difference. and yeah, as i said the only thign im really 'concerned' about is the battery and radio.. lol

i think i might get the mini, but i reaaally want a radio, and i hate how they charge sooo much to replace the mini's battery

[Baku]

i hate how they charge sooo much to replace the mini's battery

if you have the warrenty its free, its only the non warrenty ones that cost to replace thats why if you get one i would consider gettting the 2 year add on

now to add on what good things the ipod has

its slim and sleek unlike the zen, less buttons to fidle with when you can move around on the ipod much quicker,

"See, it's that simple. And the Zen is compatible with Napster To Go. That's uhh.. unlimited songs for 15 dollars a month.

For the iPod.. it's 99 cents per song and you can only buy songs from the iTunes store."

not true, with napster you can dl and save on your computer then just move it to the ipod, or you can burn your own cds, you do not have to buy from itunes

the price may be a little iffy but i mean you can get rid of the album art and add more songs with that or lower the kbps just a bit and save room as well

i really dont think the dB should matter because i mean thats like fine heraing you have to have like a $400 pair of headphones to really hear the diffrance i mean you think just a few db would make a difference? i mean its not like your trying to go into an ipod comp to see whos sounds better?

this is my rant and rave

[sadolakced acid]

not true, with napster you can dl and save on your computer then just move it to the ipod, or you can burn your own cds, you do not have to buy from itunes

it costs 99 cents a song to rip to CD.

the tracks are DRM protected, so you can only play them on your computer and your MP3 player.