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more secular world, good or bad?
DavidJ2318
post Apr 15 2005, 10:15 PM
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this could get pretty controversial

do you think that the world/US should be more secular (nonreligious, worldly, liberal)? (seperation of church and state)

examples could be like having the ten commandments in front a city hall or the use of the word 'God' in the pledge, etc.

personally, i think that it is fine right now. i cant imagine a more secular world where everything you say can criticized. i consider myself a semi-conservative

thoughts?
 
 
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post Apr 15 2005, 10:41 PM
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wouldn't those examples be examples of NON-secular? huh.gif

well, i personally think that it should be more secular. people are still prejudice against different religions whether they'll admit to it or not. also, since christians are the dominant religion in the U.S., they seem to think that they have the first hand to everything, where they can include parts of their religion in national traditions. (i.e. the national anthem) i take offense to "one nation, under god" in the pledge because you're supposed to get "in trouble" for not saying it. I purposely don't say "under god" because for 1.) i don't believe in god and 2.) i shouldnt be forced to say something that i dont believe in.
 
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post May 3 2005, 04:46 PM
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Sorry for the double post.

QUOTE(caytexo @ Apr 15 2005, 11:41 PM)
wouldn't those examples be examples of NON-secular? huh.gif

well, i personally think that it should be more secular. people are still prejudice against different religions whether they'll admit to it or not. also, since christians are the dominant religion in the U.S., they seem to think that they have the first hand to everything, where they can include parts of their religion in national traditions. (i.e. the national anthem) i take offense to "one nation, under god" in the pledge because you're supposed to get "in trouble" for not saying it. I purposely don't say "under god" because for 1.) i don't believe in god and 2.) i shouldnt be forced to say something that i dont believe in.
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I totally agree with you. The national law is that you must stand for the pledge but you do not have to say it. (At least in public school. I don't know about other places.) The reason I know this is because I debated and protested this whole issue last year. So I'm very glad this girl took it to the Supreme Court. So tomarrow when you go to school, don't say the pledge but stand up. If they try to make you say the pledge, say no and that it's your right as an American citizen to decide whether or not to say the pledge and that you are protected under federal law. wink.gif

I also have tried to turn my back on the flag but they made me turn around. I don't know if that's illegal, too. But I didn't really feel the need to debate it. So yeah. yawn.gif
 

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