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Pledge Of Allegiance, recitation in schools
simx
post Apr 24 2005, 09:13 PM
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I just wanna know what everyone thinks about this. Recently, for my AP government class we had to do an essay about wether reciting the pledge of allegiance in public schools was constitutional or not. This is pretty much what i wrote:

If the school officials force all the students to recite the pledge, then It is unconstitutional... Violates the Lemon Test, standard 2 I believe...

If it's voluntary to say the pledge during school, then it it doesn't not violate the Establishment Clause (passes the lemon test)

Anyone else have an opinion about this?
 
 
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punkymoke
post Apr 27 2005, 11:12 AM
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God was the basis and the founding of our country, we should most definetly keep it in the schools.
 
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post Apr 27 2005, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(punkymoke @ Apr 27 2005, 11:12 AM)
God was the basis and the founding of our country, we should most definetly keep it in the schools.
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Wrong.

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...hl=pledge+under

*sigh* here is something else I said about the matter in another thread:

"There is no doubt in my mind that religious belief played a major part in the history and founding of America. But why did people come to the Americas to practice religion? Would you agree with me if I say that it was because they have more spiritual freedom?

Christianity was the smaller picture. Religious freedom was, and still is, the bigger picture. Christianity was simply the faith of those who wished for religious freedom in America. They believed in Christianity but they SOUGHT FREEDOM of RELIGIOUS PRACTICE.

So to respond to your comment, the historical impact is not Christianity, it is the finding of religious freedom. Thus, our First Amendment does NOT say that we have freedom to practice Christianity, it says we simply have religious freedom."


So you see, even though God inspired the search for freedom, those who sought freedom clearly believed in freedom of religious practice not just the freedom to serve God...
 

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simx   Pledge Of Allegiance   Apr 24 2005, 09:13 PM
sadolakced acid   lemon test? anyways; this isn't a debate, but...   Apr 24 2005, 09:39 PM
Teesa   what is the lemon test? I agree with you guys--as ...   Apr 24 2005, 10:00 PM
simx   LoL The Lemon Test is a test that is used to see w...   Apr 24 2005, 11:20 PM
kryzcoak47luv666   I think its wrong if its forced, and my grammer sc...   Apr 25 2005, 05:20 AM
starlette   eh I wish I cared enough. Ig uess I could underst...   Apr 25 2005, 05:57 AM
soulless727   purple ponies (self-deleted 12/06)   Apr 25 2005, 08:07 AM
XoJennaoX   Just because something is unconstitutional doesn...   Apr 25 2005, 09:34 AM
Paradox of Life   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 8:34 AM)Just b...   Apr 25 2005, 01:38 PM
xcaitlinx   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 9:34 AM)Just b...   Apr 25 2005, 04:04 PM
XoJennaoX   QUOTE(caytexo @ Apr 25 2005, 4:04 PM)bahhh......   Apr 25 2005, 09:23 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 9:23 PM)I...   Apr 25 2005, 09:42 PM
XoJennaoX   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Apr 25 2005, 9:42 PM)I...   Apr 25 2005, 09:59 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 9:59 PM)I thin...   Apr 25 2005, 10:34 PM
xcaitlinx   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 9:23 PM)haha.....   Apr 26 2005, 03:15 PM
XoJennaoX   QUOTE(caytexo @ Apr 26 2005, 3:15 PM)Well you...   Apr 26 2005, 03:33 PM
simx   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 9:34 AM)if you...   Apr 25 2005, 04:19 PM
YoGrandpaIsFine   QUOTE(simx @ Apr 25 2005, 4:19 PM)hmmm... I t...   Apr 25 2005, 05:20 PM
xcaitlinx   QUOTE(im_s0_sp0ngey @ Apr 25 2005, 5:20 PM)Pe...   Apr 25 2005, 06:46 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 9:34 AM)Just b...   Apr 25 2005, 03:49 PM
racoons > you   QUOTEIt is not like it is going to kill you or dam...   Apr 25 2005, 03:59 PM
racoons > you   ^ yeah... i did say more or less, and the idea is...   Apr 25 2005, 04:09 PM
Spirited Away   An opinion from a naturalized American. One of th...   Apr 25 2005, 07:42 PM
antix10_kos   When I was in high school, my school set aside tim...   Apr 25 2005, 11:24 PM
yanners   i think it's all right if it's optional, b...   Apr 26 2005, 09:44 AM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(x__forever @ Apr 26 2005, 9:44 AM)i thi...   Apr 26 2005, 04:12 PM
aera   I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United...   Apr 26 2005, 08:26 PM
punkymoke   God was the basis and the founding of our country,...   Apr 27 2005, 11:12 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(punkymoke @ Apr 27 2005, 11:12 AM)God w...   Apr 27 2005, 04:52 PM
sadolakced acid   don't just say that. prove that. anyways: ...   Apr 27 2005, 03:32 PM
BrandonSaunders   At my school, the pledge comes on the broadcasted ...   Apr 29 2005, 12:13 PM
ROARxD   everyone should have the right to say the pledge i...   Apr 29 2005, 06:40 PM


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