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Pledge Of Allegiance, recitation in schools
simx
post Apr 24 2005, 09:13 PM
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I just wanna know what everyone thinks about this. Recently, for my AP government class we had to do an essay about wether reciting the pledge of allegiance in public schools was constitutional or not. This is pretty much what i wrote:

If the school officials force all the students to recite the pledge, then It is unconstitutional... Violates the Lemon Test, standard 2 I believe...

If it's voluntary to say the pledge during school, then it it doesn't not violate the Establishment Clause (passes the lemon test)

Anyone else have an opinion about this?
 
 
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antix10_kos
post Apr 25 2005, 11:24 PM
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When I was in high school, my school set aside time every Wednesday to say the pledge...(it may have been Friday, hell I don't remember). We only did the whole pledge thing once a week. I always thought that it was pointless. If the school officials didn't see it as important enough to set aside time everyday to do it, then why should I waste my class time to stand up, say it and then listen to everyone else's bs afterwards?? Might as well stay seated, continue working and then hand in my homework before class was over and get the hell out of there.....

It's not unconstitutional to set aside time for it and the school, by federal law, cannot make students stand and say it of their own volition. There was an actual ruling some years ago about the pledge in schools and prayer in schools as well, I do believe, I just don't have the energy to google it right now....

The school has to have the parents permission to force or require students to do anything that is considered to be "optional" or in possible violation of any known religious beliefs....
 

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simx   Pledge Of Allegiance   Apr 24 2005, 09:13 PM
sadolakced acid   lemon test? anyways; this isn't a debate, but...   Apr 24 2005, 09:39 PM
Teesa   what is the lemon test? I agree with you guys--as ...   Apr 24 2005, 10:00 PM
simx   LoL The Lemon Test is a test that is used to see w...   Apr 24 2005, 11:20 PM
kryzcoak47luv666   I think its wrong if its forced, and my grammer sc...   Apr 25 2005, 05:20 AM
starlette   eh I wish I cared enough. Ig uess I could underst...   Apr 25 2005, 05:57 AM
soulless727   purple ponies (self-deleted 12/06)   Apr 25 2005, 08:07 AM
XoJennaoX   Just because something is unconstitutional doesn...   Apr 25 2005, 09:34 AM
Paradox of Life   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 8:34 AM)Just b...   Apr 25 2005, 01:38 PM
xcaitlinx   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 9:34 AM)Just b...   Apr 25 2005, 04:04 PM
XoJennaoX   QUOTE(caytexo @ Apr 25 2005, 4:04 PM)bahhh......   Apr 25 2005, 09:23 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 9:23 PM)I...   Apr 25 2005, 09:42 PM
XoJennaoX   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Apr 25 2005, 9:42 PM)I...   Apr 25 2005, 09:59 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 9:59 PM)I thin...   Apr 25 2005, 10:34 PM
xcaitlinx   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 9:23 PM)haha.....   Apr 26 2005, 03:15 PM
XoJennaoX   QUOTE(caytexo @ Apr 26 2005, 3:15 PM)Well you...   Apr 26 2005, 03:33 PM
simx   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 9:34 AM)if you...   Apr 25 2005, 04:19 PM
YoGrandpaIsFine   QUOTE(simx @ Apr 25 2005, 4:19 PM)hmmm... I t...   Apr 25 2005, 05:20 PM
xcaitlinx   QUOTE(im_s0_sp0ngey @ Apr 25 2005, 5:20 PM)Pe...   Apr 25 2005, 06:46 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 9:34 AM)Just b...   Apr 25 2005, 03:49 PM
racoons > you   QUOTEIt is not like it is going to kill you or dam...   Apr 25 2005, 03:59 PM
racoons > you   ^ yeah... i did say more or less, and the idea is...   Apr 25 2005, 04:09 PM
Spirited Away   An opinion from a naturalized American. One of th...   Apr 25 2005, 07:42 PM
antix10_kos   When I was in high school, my school set aside tim...   Apr 25 2005, 11:24 PM
yanners   i think it's all right if it's optional, b...   Apr 26 2005, 09:44 AM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(x__forever @ Apr 26 2005, 9:44 AM)i thi...   Apr 26 2005, 04:12 PM
aera   I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United...   Apr 26 2005, 08:26 PM
punkymoke   God was the basis and the founding of our country,...   Apr 27 2005, 11:12 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(punkymoke @ Apr 27 2005, 11:12 AM)God w...   Apr 27 2005, 04:52 PM
sadolakced acid   don't just say that. prove that. anyways: ...   Apr 27 2005, 03:32 PM
BrandonSaunders   At my school, the pledge comes on the broadcasted ...   Apr 29 2005, 12:13 PM
ROARxD   everyone should have the right to say the pledge i...   Apr 29 2005, 06:40 PM


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