Pledge Of Allegiance, recitation in schools Options

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I just wanna know what everyone thinks about this. Recently, for my AP government class we had to do an essay about wether reciting the pledge of allegiance in public schools was constitutional or not. This is pretty much what i wrote:

If the school officials force all the students to recite the pledge, then It is unconstitutional... Violates the Lemon Test, standard 2 I believe...

If it's voluntary to say the pledge during school, then it it doesn't not violate the Establishment Clause (passes the lemon test)

Anyone else have an opinion about this?

[XoJennaoX]

Just because something is unconstitutional doesn't mean it is wrong, thats why we have so many ammendments.
It is just a matter of respect.....if you don't like some of the values of America..tuff shyt.... you live here don't you? If you hate it that much that you cannot stand for less than 10 seconds then you shouldn't have the privledge to live here in the first place. It is not like it is going to kill you or damage/corrupt your beliefs. In fact the people that are most readily to stand for the flag are people who were not born in this country.....go figure....it is just respect, it does not reflect or change their beliefs and they know that. Just like Karamelle said about the Olympics, there everyone stands for any country's flag and anthem in respect, despite their beliefs.

[*xcaitlinx*]

Just because something is unconstitutional doesn't mean it is wrong, thats why we have so many ammendments.
It is just a matter of respect.....if you don't like some of the values of America..tuff shyt.... you live here don't you? If you hate it that much that you cannot stand for  less than 10 seconds then you shouldn't have the privledge to live here in the first place. It is not like it is going to kill you or damage/corrupt your beliefs. In fact the people that are most readily to stand for the flag are people who were not born in this country.....go figure....it is just respect, it does not reflect or change their beliefs and they know that.  Just like Karamelle said about the Olympics, there everyone stands for any country's flag and anthem in respect, despite their beliefs.

bahhh...another sad excuse for the stereotypical ignorant american. Does the government brainwash you that much where you think that it's wrong to have an opinion that goes against the government? That's why we have FREEDOM OF SPEECH hun.

Ooh and yes, i do live in America. I'm 14 years old and I have no other choice but to live here since i'm not legal. When I'm out of college, I most likely will move out of the country if it continues to be like it is today. You don't have the priviledge to speak because you're being completely one-sided and can't see past your sheltered views. Go out into the real world hun, not everyone is conservative and overly patriotic/pro-American.

im sorry.. .but i was given to understand that america was more or less run on the principles of democracy? you seem to have confused it with a dictatorship of some kind

hehe...i wish it was a complete democracy. It's a REPUBLIC democracy. *sigh*

[XoJennaoX]

bahhh...another sad excuse for the stereotypical ignorant american. Does the government brainwash you that much where you think that it's wrong to have an opinion that goes against the government? That's why we have FREEDOM OF SPEECH hun.

Ooh and yes, i do live in America. I'm 14 years old and I have no other choice but to live here since i'm not legal. When I'm out of college, I most likely will move out of the country if it continues to be like it is today. You don't have the priviledge to speak because you're being completely one-sided and can't see past your sheltered views. Go out into the real world hun, not everyone is conservative and overly patriotic/pro-American.
hehe...i wish it was a complete democracy. It's a REPUBLIC democracy. *sigh*

haha... i am in the real world hun...at least i am in college unlike a 14 year old on here that has never experienced it for herself , telling ME that I have sheltered views...lol...thats funny.
I'm not being one-sided if you read my post corectly. I am not a conservative AT ALL. Just because you live in a so called FREE country does not mean you can do whatever you want! that is a commom misconception i see in this debate. If we had the right to do whatever we feel, this country wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell. Of course i know i can have my own opinion against the government, i have many, but for some reason a lot of people always feel the need to have them for no good reason, and their only excuse is..."but i thought this was a free country?"
The pledge of allegiance will only affect your beliefs if you let it, and thats true for those i have spoken to from other countries who do not live under American beliefs what-so-ever. They believe in its appropriateness...if only those who live in this country would feel the same way. You DO have the choice afterall...what more do you want? but again we live in a place full of ignorant americans, where people always want the rights they don't have, justify what rights they should have, and curse the rights they already have.