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Pledge Of Allegiance, recitation in schools
simx
post Apr 24 2005, 09:13 PM
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I just wanna know what everyone thinks about this. Recently, for my AP government class we had to do an essay about wether reciting the pledge of allegiance in public schools was constitutional or not. This is pretty much what i wrote:

If the school officials force all the students to recite the pledge, then It is unconstitutional... Violates the Lemon Test, standard 2 I believe...

If it's voluntary to say the pledge during school, then it it doesn't not violate the Establishment Clause (passes the lemon test)

Anyone else have an opinion about this?
 
 
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post Apr 25 2005, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 9:34 AM)
Just because something is unconstitutional doesn't mean it is wrong, thats why we have so many ammendments.
It is just a matter of respect.....if you don't like some of the values of America..tuff shyt.... you live here don't you? If you hate it that much that you cannot stand for  less than 10 seconds then you shouldn't have the privledge to live here in the first place. It is not like it is going to kill you or damage/corrupt your beliefs. In fact the people that are most readily to stand for the flag are people who were not born in this country.....go figure....it is just respect, it does not reflect or change their beliefs and they know that.  Just like Karamelle said about the Olympics, there everyone stands for any country's flag and anthem in respect, despite their beliefs.
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wait... you're saying if i don't agree with america's policies i'm unamerican, and should leave?

i am an american citizen
i've never lived outside the country
i would serve my country if called upon
but i will NOT say the pledge of alleigance.

why? it stands for something i don't believe in. It stands for religion, it stands for a lack of freedom, and it stands as a tribute to the hipocracy of our nation.

does that mean it makes me unamerican? i certainly hope not. but if it does, then that's another reason to not say the pledge.
 

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simx   Pledge Of Allegiance   Apr 24 2005, 09:13 PM
sadolakced acid   lemon test? anyways; this isn't a debate, but...   Apr 24 2005, 09:39 PM
Teesa   what is the lemon test? I agree with you guys--as ...   Apr 24 2005, 10:00 PM
simx   LoL The Lemon Test is a test that is used to see w...   Apr 24 2005, 11:20 PM
kryzcoak47luv666   I think its wrong if its forced, and my grammer sc...   Apr 25 2005, 05:20 AM
starlette   eh I wish I cared enough. Ig uess I could underst...   Apr 25 2005, 05:57 AM
soulless727   purple ponies (self-deleted 12/06)   Apr 25 2005, 08:07 AM
XoJennaoX   Just because something is unconstitutional doesn...   Apr 25 2005, 09:34 AM
Paradox of Life   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 8:34 AM)Just b...   Apr 25 2005, 01:38 PM
xcaitlinx   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 9:34 AM)Just b...   Apr 25 2005, 04:04 PM
XoJennaoX   QUOTE(caytexo @ Apr 25 2005, 4:04 PM)bahhh......   Apr 25 2005, 09:23 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 9:23 PM)I...   Apr 25 2005, 09:42 PM
XoJennaoX   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Apr 25 2005, 9:42 PM)I...   Apr 25 2005, 09:59 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 9:59 PM)I thin...   Apr 25 2005, 10:34 PM
xcaitlinx   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 9:23 PM)haha.....   Apr 26 2005, 03:15 PM
XoJennaoX   QUOTE(caytexo @ Apr 26 2005, 3:15 PM)Well you...   Apr 26 2005, 03:33 PM
simx   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 9:34 AM)if you...   Apr 25 2005, 04:19 PM
YoGrandpaIsFine   QUOTE(simx @ Apr 25 2005, 4:19 PM)hmmm... I t...   Apr 25 2005, 05:20 PM
xcaitlinx   QUOTE(im_s0_sp0ngey @ Apr 25 2005, 5:20 PM)Pe...   Apr 25 2005, 06:46 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 25 2005, 9:34 AM)Just b...   Apr 25 2005, 03:49 PM
racoons > you   QUOTEIt is not like it is going to kill you or dam...   Apr 25 2005, 03:59 PM
racoons > you   ^ yeah... i did say more or less, and the idea is...   Apr 25 2005, 04:09 PM
Spirited Away   An opinion from a naturalized American. One of th...   Apr 25 2005, 07:42 PM
antix10_kos   When I was in high school, my school set aside tim...   Apr 25 2005, 11:24 PM
yanners   i think it's all right if it's optional, b...   Apr 26 2005, 09:44 AM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(x__forever @ Apr 26 2005, 9:44 AM)i thi...   Apr 26 2005, 04:12 PM
aera   I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United...   Apr 26 2005, 08:26 PM
punkymoke   God was the basis and the founding of our country,...   Apr 27 2005, 11:12 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(punkymoke @ Apr 27 2005, 11:12 AM)God w...   Apr 27 2005, 04:52 PM
sadolakced acid   don't just say that. prove that. anyways: ...   Apr 27 2005, 03:32 PM
BrandonSaunders   At my school, the pledge comes on the broadcasted ...   Apr 29 2005, 12:13 PM
ROARxD   everyone should have the right to say the pledge i...   Apr 29 2005, 06:40 PM


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