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indykid845
post Oct 31 2004, 07:30 PM
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iz there ne one else who CANNOT wait 4 halo 2 to come out?!
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Silverchief
post Apr 22 2005, 09:15 PM
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Ok Thunderevermore, we got some issues to cover.
First of all, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark we're good and all, but they're kinda out dated. How many kids do you hear still talkin about havin theyre buds over to play a good ol game of Goldeneye? Haven't heard it in years.
You also quoted a while ago that Perfect Dark enhanced what Goldeneye had done. Has Halo not enhanced wat Perfect Dark left behind?
Now lets get to Halo.
The game is balanced, dont kid yourself. You say a shotgun is just as good as a rocket launcher? Have you even played the game??? Surely, you would know then, that a shotgun is only good for around the corner attacks, and does nothing long range. A rocket launcher is greater medium range, but will get ya killed in short range. They balance out dude.
The vehicles also serve a good purpose. They ghost is a nice 1 seater, but the warthog is fun with a party of 3. The banshee adds some more fun, and the tanks are lots off fun if u can find a friend who can master one. The vehicles also add madness to the multiplayer catpure the flag matches.
If you do not think halo 2 is balanced enough, still, then check out the new updates that were just released on Xbox Live.
You also said that Halo did NOT revolutionize gaming. I beg to differ to some extent. What Halo did do was that it brought the greatness of online FPS to gamers across the world, which had only been avaliable previously on PCs. Sure others tryied to mimic, like Unreal and Ghost Recon, but none delivered the same thrills (my opinion). Unreal was too fast, and Ghost Recon was too slow/stealthy. Not my cups of tea. Halo mixes fast action, with strategic warfare. (gates, teleporters, etc.) Not to mention plenty of game types and modes.
Now how can u sit here and tell us all you found Halo 1 and 2's stories boring? They were compeling and had major twists and plot points. Was it not a fun shock to face the flood for the first time? To discover Halo was actually a storage to hold the flood, not a weapon, or holy artifact? Was it not a feeling of dominance when you first swong the energy sword in Halo 2? Sure the story in halo 2 was a little disappointing, but it acts just like a great second book, or movie, in a series. Halo 3 will be wat sells Xbox 2.
As for the Microsoft loosing money issue, who gives a shit! As a consumer, it doesn't matter! As long as Microsoft never scraps the xbox, who cares if they loose money!
To sum everything up, Halo 2 is the best, current FPS to date(on consoles anyway). Who else will challenge? Killzone = What a joke! It was just made to "defeat" halo, but failed. Geist = looks to be good, but with no online, it can't even compete in the same pool as Halo. You may argue, but when it comes down to it, the multiplayer is what gives a game replay value and splitscreen is kinda gettin old.
To all the Halo representatives in this blog room, yall are pathetic! Get your facts straight! You let, wat appears to be, a Nintedo Fanboy overrun yall, and contol the board. Pathetic. I see enough off em on other gaming websites.
If you think your a big enough hotshot, thunderevermore, then why don't you go to a real gaming website, like 1up.com, and try to defend your point in a Halo 2 club wit at least 100 members. If you think your not a Nintendo fanboy, then take that retarded DS logo off the bottom of ur posts. If you want to look cool, and play the most bad-ass systme in the car or whenever, you get a PSP. But lets argue over that another day.
Last but not least, learn how to show your sources right. Google is not a source. It's a search engine. This makes you sound like a 5th grader. For someone who likes to pick on others for minor mistkes ("It's not FPS Shooter, its FPS. Thats like double quote=ing." or watever) you seem to make several mistakes of you own.
A true source would be like: I retrieved my info from gamespot.com, under the article, "PSP sells 600,000 units in first week".
By the way, it's an "S" controller, not a "Y" controller. Get your facts right before you diss somethin. And wats wrong with fixin somethin thats broke like the bulky original controller?
 
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post Apr 25 2005, 07:29 AM
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I hope you don't mind if I answer some of these for him.

QUOTE(Silverchief @ Apr 22 2005, 9:15 PM)
Ok Thunderevermore, we got some issues to cover.
First of all, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark we're good and all, but they're kinda out dated.  How many kids do you hear still talkin about havin theyre buds over to play a good ol game of Goldeneye? Haven't heard it in years.


I haven't heard it either (because most people that still like the 007 franchise are playing the news games on the new consoles), but Goldeneye/Perfect Dark has left lasting memories in all of my friends and I. Whenever we play an FPS, at least once, the discussion goes back to "remember when we played goldeneye/perfect dark and did...?"

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You also quoted a while ago that Perfect Dark enhanced what Goldeneye had done. Has Halo not enhanced wat Perfect Dark left behind?


It would be better to say Halo has enhanced what Marathon left behind. Unfortunately, I only know of three other people in real life (as in not counting people that I know over the internet) that have heard of Marathon (which, if you do not know, is Bungie's precursor to Halo). The fact that such a fun game has gone unnoticed (a fun game that is made by the same people as Halo) shows that Halo is receiving way too much hype.

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Now lets get to Halo.
The game is balanced, dont kid yourself. You say a shotgun is just as good as a rocket launcher? Have you even played the game??? Surely, you would know then, that a shotgun is only good for around the corner attacks, and does nothing long range. A rocket launcher is greater medium range, but will get ya killed in short range. They balance out dude.
The vehicles also serve a good purpose. They ghost is a nice 1 seater, but the warthog is fun with a party of 3.  The banshee adds some more fun, and the tanks are lots off fun if u can find a friend who can master one.  The vehicles also add madness to the multiplayer catpure the flag matches.
If you do not think halo 2 is balanced enough, still, then check out the new updates that were just released on Xbox Live.


I'm not really sure if Thunder actually said the shotgun was as good as the rocket launcher (sorry if I got it wrong, I'm in a hurry, so I only read up to page 4 and searched for the word balance). The closest thing I found was that he said he'd rather use a shotgun than a pistol at close range.

The game does have some balance issues, at least in my experience. Alien Sniper Rifle > Human Sniper Rifle. Covenant Carbine > Assault Rifle. The SMG is better than any covenant equivalent (not sure what you could consider it's equivalent, I would guess needler). The vehicles are a whole different story. Each one fills a different niche, I understand that (human tank is direct fire, alien tank is more of an artillery weapon). but where is the human airplane? Where is the human one seater vehicle (I'd love for bungie to put a motorcycle in the game)?

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You also said that Halo did NOT revolutionize gaming. I beg to differ to some extent. What Halo did do was that it brought the greatness of online FPS to gamers across the world, which had only been avaliable previously on PCs. Sure others tryied to mimic, like Unreal and Ghost Recon, but none delivered the same thrills (my opinion). Unreal was too fast, and Ghost Recon was too slow/stealthy. Not my cups of tea. Halo mixes fast action, with strategic warfare. (gates, teleporters, etc.) Not to mention plenty of game types and modes.


Halo did not revolutionize gaming. It brought back the FPS genre to the console, but in my opinion, the FPS genre works best on the PC. I don't know anyone who doesn't find the old WASD better than the XBOX controls. In fact, Halo was supposed to come out for the Mac (just like Marathon did), but Microsoft bought Bungie.

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Now how can u sit here and tell us all you found Halo 1 and 2's stories boring? They were compeling and had major twists and plot points. Was it not a fun shock to face the flood for the first time? To discover Halo was actually a storage to hold the flood, not a weapon, or holy artifact?  Was it not a feeling of dominance when you first swong the energy sword in Halo 2? Sure the story in halo 2 was a little disappointing, but it acts just like a great second book, or movie, in a series.  Halo 3 will be wat sells Xbox 2.


I didn't find it that compelling. In fact, I tried playing singleplayer Halo, but decided to stop because it wasn't nearly as fun or compelling as multiplayer slayer. Halo 2 was really disappointing, and of course, it will be a set up for Halo 3, but do you think it's fair that Microsoft hyped the crap out of the game when they knew it wouldn't have an ending?

This little comic says it the best: http://img.penny-arcade.com/2005/20050318l.jpg

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As for the Microsoft loosing money issue, who gives a shit! As a consumer, it doesn't matter! As long as Microsoft never scraps the xbox, who cares if they loose money!
To sum everything up, Halo 2 is the best, current FPS to date(on consoles anyway). Who else will challenge? Killzone = What a joke! It was just made to "defeat" halo, but failed.  Geist = looks to be good, but with no online, it can't even compete in the same pool as Halo. You may argue, but when it comes down to it, the multiplayer is what gives a game replay value and splitscreen is kinda gettin old.


I haven't found a current console FPS that is better than Halo 2. However, I haven't found a console FPS that is better than what comes out for the PC. Battlefield Vietnam (and the mod PoE) is in my opinion, better than Halo 2 (even though I feel bad about buying games from EA, but that's a different story). In fact, I had already been playing BFV for quite some time before Halo 2, and once I got to Halo 2 multiplayer, my reaction was pretty ho-hum. The only people I know that think Halo 2 multiplayer is a "shockingly OMG new experience" are the people who have never played games like Tribes, BF and Marathon.

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To all the Halo representatives in this blog room, yall are pathetic! Get your facts straight! You let, wat appears to be, a Nintedo Fanboy overrun yall, and contol the board. Pathetic. I see enough off em on other gaming websites.
If you think your a big enough hotshot, thunderevermore, then why don't you go to a real gaming website, like 1up.com, and try to defend your point in a Halo 2 club wit at least 100 members.  If you think your not a Nintendo fanboy, then take that retarded DS logo off the bottom of ur posts. If you want to look cool, and play the most bad-ass systme in the car or whenever, you get a PSP. But lets argue over that another day.


You speak as if Nintendo fanboys are an inferior race of human beings. If someone is loyal to a certain company, because that company has been producing fine products for over 100 years (though in this case, it's probably only the last 20-30 years unless you are a hana fuda connosieur), why hold that against them? Spinning this around, if someone believes a company is wrongfully trying to monopolize a free market, why hold that against them?

And if nintendo fanboys are bad in your eyes, aren't those who irrationally hate nintendo (you know who I'm talking about, those "OMG nintendo is f0r t3h kidx0rs!11one people) just as bad, if not worse.

And yes, we'll talk about the handhelds another day. Provided you come back, considering this is your only post.
 

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indykid845   halo 2   Oct 31 2004, 07:30 PM
kz10683   hehe..halo 2 rules   Oct 31 2004, 09:04 PM
Expresseggroll   Lol. Gonna big the biggest First person shooter. ...   Oct 31 2004, 09:25 PM
Days Nearly Over   What's so great about halo? moved.   Oct 31 2004, 09:34 PM
DaTru KataLYST   QUOTE(Days Nearly Over @ Oct 31 2004, 7:34 PM...   Oct 31 2004, 09:46 PM
Days Nearly Over   QUOTE(atpx @ Oct 31 2004, 9:46 PM)It was the ...   Oct 31 2004, 10:14 PM
mechwarrior1989   QUOTE(Days Nearly Over @ Oct 31 2004, 10:14 P...   Oct 31 2004, 10:33 PM
DaTru KataLYST   QUOTE(Days Nearly Over @ Oct 31 2004, 8:14 PM...   Oct 31 2004, 11:09 PM
wayne   halo is the best fps shooter.. hands down.. no oth...   Nov 1 2004, 12:11 AM
kz10683   QUOTE(wayne @ Nov 1 2004, 12:11 AM)halo is th...   Nov 1 2004, 12:26 AM
BigPappaSmurf   Halo is so awesom I have the first one on my other...   Nov 2 2004, 11:50 AM
goofipinay   i love halo! its awesome and i agree wit wayn...   Nov 4 2004, 05:29 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(atpx @ Oct 31 2004, 10:46 PM)It was the...   Nov 4 2004, 07:56 PM
metabolic666   QUOTE(wayne @ Nov 1 2004, 12:11 AM)halo is th...   Nov 5 2004, 02:22 PM
kryogenix   Halo 2 is a good game, but I think the first perso...   Nov 7 2004, 02:54 PM
Mr. Psychotic   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 7 2004, 11:54 AM)Halo 2...   Nov 7 2004, 05:20 PM
DaTru KataLYST   I see that you people who aren't so fond of Ha...   Nov 7 2004, 10:34 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(atpx @ Nov 7 2004, 10:34 PM)I see that ...   Nov 8 2004, 06:47 AM
CloudUnionX   Im going up to gamestop tonight to get it, I have ...   Nov 8 2004, 05:22 PM
DaTru KataLYST   valid points kryo, but as halo2 is coming out toni...   Nov 8 2004, 08:24 PM
th5418   QUOTE(wayne @ Nov 1 2004, 12:11 AM)halo is th...   Nov 8 2004, 08:38 PM
sm0kinm0nky   i uesd to play halo 1 so much on pc and xbox. haha...   Nov 8 2004, 08:40 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(atpx @ Nov 7 2004, 11:34 PM)I see that ...   Nov 8 2004, 09:24 PM
mechwarrior1989   Technically, Halo was not "overhyped" si...   Nov 8 2004, 10:51 PM
DaTru KataLYST   ok thunder, You win too! But I still get ...   Nov 8 2004, 10:51 PM
eboarder2020   ITS HERE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!!!! ...   Nov 9 2004, 01:02 AM
CloudUnionX   I just got back, I got halo 2 special eddition. ...   Nov 9 2004, 02:56 AM
cookiethief   OMG JORDAN! i want halo 2 -_- i love halo thou...   Nov 9 2004, 03:09 AM
x_angawhomps   OGMOGMOGMOGMOGMGOMGOmgGMGJORDAN!!!   Nov 9 2004, 04:38 AM
xquizit   I didn't reserve a copy because my BF was supp...   Nov 9 2004, 09:56 AM
Weird addiction   it came to belgium today the 9th of november but i...   Nov 9 2004, 10:57 AM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(mechwarrior1989 @ Nov 8 2004, 11:51 PM)...   Nov 9 2004, 05:30 PM
goofipinay   can u believe none of my friends even hav an xbox?...   Nov 9 2004, 06:07 PM
Heathasm   yep, pre-ordered it had 3 other people here to pla...   Nov 9 2004, 06:09 PM
kryogenix   haha, my friend had it earlier today, and he got i...   Nov 9 2004, 06:57 PM
DaTru KataLYST   yay! I got it at midnight! =) I finished t...   Nov 9 2004, 10:44 PM
mechwarrior1989   QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Nov 9 2004, 5:30 PM)O...   Nov 10 2004, 11:16 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(mechwarrior1989 @ Nov 11 2004, 12:16 AM...   Nov 11 2004, 12:52 PM
xquizit   I GOT IT I GOT IT I GOT IT I GOT IT today. My da...   Nov 11 2004, 07:50 PM
Justingamemaster   Gamestop is so poser...i reserved the limited edit...   Nov 12 2004, 02:00 AM
stephinika   oh man all my friends who have xbox preordered and...   Nov 12 2004, 02:03 AM
DaTru KataLYST   question to the people who finish the game in one ...   Nov 12 2004, 02:47 AM
mechwarrior1989   QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Nov 11 2004, 12:52 PM...   Nov 12 2004, 11:36 AM
Justingamemaster   QUOTE(atpx @ Nov 12 2004, 12:47 AM)question t...   Nov 12 2004, 01:15 PM
bellpepper   [QUOTE]But, sad to say, i am disappointed at the L...   Nov 12 2004, 05:59 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(mechwarrior1989 @ Nov 12 2004, 11:36 AM...   Nov 12 2004, 06:19 PM
karrar   any body else pissed at the ending? yeesh atleast...   Nov 13 2004, 10:53 AM
Weird addiction   its soooo f**king wonderful i love itt!!...   Nov 13 2004, 10:55 AM
mechwarrior1989   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 12 2004, 6:19 PM)Doesn...   Nov 14 2004, 12:27 AM
mechwarrior1989   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 12 2004, 6:19 PM)What y...   Nov 14 2004, 12:29 AM
Justingamemaster   Wow the second ring pic looks exactly like that in...   Nov 14 2004, 02:27 AM
ThunderEvermore   1) Realism doesnt just take place in gravity. Ever...   Nov 15 2004, 08:11 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Nov 15 2004, 8:11 PM)...   Nov 16 2004, 05:08 PM
xnofearx   I'm so obsessed with Halo that my friends and ...   Nov 17 2004, 04:24 PM
CherryChik07   My brothers and I just got XBOX LIVE last night.. ...   Nov 18 2004, 11:23 AM
XxtremeRickyX   QUOTE(CherryChik07 @ Nov 18 2004, 11:23 AM)My...   Nov 18 2004, 05:01 PM
Justingamemaster   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 16 2004, 3:08 PM)Actual...   Nov 19 2004, 10:25 PM
mechwarrior1989   QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Nov 15 2004, 8:11 PM)...   Nov 21 2004, 03:08 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(mechwarrior1989 @ Nov 21 2004, 4:08 PM)...   Nov 21 2004, 09:50 PM
Statistik   I think i like counter-strike better..well becuz i...   Nov 22 2004, 06:19 PM
mechwarrior1989   QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Nov 21 2004, 8:50 PM)...   Nov 22 2004, 08:02 PM
faithin_felix   ohh i played it few days ago at my friends house, ...   Nov 22 2004, 09:52 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(mechwarrior1989 @ Nov 22 2004, 9:02 PM)...   Nov 23 2004, 05:25 PM
mechwarrior1989   You know what, I'm really bored of coming on c...   Nov 23 2004, 09:00 PM
uhoh_its_aria   Halo is da shiiiiiet. I <3 it.   Nov 24 2004, 02:29 PM
kryogenix   bringing this back up, because it was rated as gam...   Dec 27 2004, 04:06 PM
kryogenix   bump   Dec 30 2004, 04:38 PM
PurchasedRebellion   My boyfriend got it for Christmas and we played la...   Dec 31 2004, 02:09 PM
DaTru KataLYST   i thot it was a fun game kryo. And it topped my li...   Dec 31 2004, 02:52 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(DaTru KataLYST @ Dec 31 2004, 2:52 PM)i...   Dec 31 2004, 02:55 PM
DaTru KataLYST   w/ school yep. yep i did. jw wut other games w...   Dec 31 2004, 02:56 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(DaTru KataLYST @ Dec 31 2004, 2:56 PM)w...   Dec 31 2004, 06:24 PM
DaTru KataLYST   got MGS3, HL2, and Ninja Gaidan Never got around...   Dec 31 2004, 06:26 PM
KissMe2408   I just finished playing it with some of my guy fri...   Jan 1 2005, 03:44 AM
Teesa   gosh some of my friends are completely obesessed.....   Mar 18 2005, 07:01 PM
OshKoshPoshJosh   I love it when people try to make valid points abo...   Apr 3 2005, 01:02 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(OshKoshPoshJosh @ Apr 3 2005, 1:02 PM)I...   Apr 3 2005, 03:26 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(OshKoshPoshJosh @ Apr 3 2005, 2:02 PM)I...   Apr 6 2005, 09:51 AM
IGB   can't put anything over CS as my favorite fps,...   Apr 3 2005, 05:51 PM
karrar   Anyways yal pickin up the new maps?   Apr 5 2005, 07:43 PM
Szeh   What's so good about Halo 2? I hear it everywh...   Apr 9 2005, 09:27 PM
Silverchief   Ok Thunderevermore, we got some issues to cover. F...   Apr 22 2005, 09:15 PM
kryogenix   I hope you don't mind if I answer some of thes...   Apr 25 2005, 07:29 AM
Kenado   about 99% of my friends (that are guys) are addict...   Apr 24 2005, 10:49 AM
soulless727   its a game....not your life......   Apr 25 2005, 10:06 AM
kill me please   its pretty good. if i called it anything less than...   Apr 25 2005, 11:15 AM
Silverchief   ok, so the weapons. Overall, the weapons are off b...   Apr 25 2005, 03:47 PM
drugmasterj   Halo 2 is awesom... play LIVE just tops it off...   Apr 27 2005, 02:47 AM
aznmonkeypunk   in halo 2, if u ever played it before (most likely...   Apr 27 2005, 02:55 PM
Frankie   TOPIC MOVED TO INTERESTS > TECHNOLOGY   Apr 27 2005, 04:25 PM
Justingamemaster   Hmm...I'd have to say the most best upgrade fr...   Apr 27 2005, 10:18 PM
IGB   they need to make possible dual-swords. gg   Apr 28 2005, 01:03 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(IGB @ Apr 28 2005, 1:03 AM)they need to...   Apr 28 2005, 06:52 PM
pandamonium   lol im so stupid i just found out they are coming ...   Apr 28 2005, 08:59 AM
inlonelinessidie   QUOTE(pandamonium @ Apr 28 2005, 6:59 AM)lol ...   Apr 28 2005, 06:56 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTEI haven't found a current console FPS tha...   Apr 28 2005, 09:45 AM
karrar   eh all 4 maps suck , and containment is to damn bi...   Apr 28 2005, 10:01 PM
Silverchief   You think future perfect is the best FPS on conslo...   May 5 2005, 03:09 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(Silverchief @ May 5 2005, 4:09 PM)You t...   May 6 2005, 05:20 AM
Silverchief   True, the story to halo 2 was dissapointing. It...   May 12 2005, 07:25 PM


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