Santo Subito, Immediate Sainthood of Pope John Paul II Options

[BeyondElite]

During the funeral of Pope John Paul II in Saint Peter's Basilica and Square, I noticed that thousands of People, mostly Poles, briefly interrupted the funeral of John Paul II with calls for his immediate canonization, with voices saying "Santo Subito,"(immediate Sainthood) and banners saying the same exact words. In your opinion, do you think Pope John Paul II should be decalred a Saint from his future successor? Why?

Since, according to the Vatican, it is highly possible that Pope John Paul II will be recognized as a saint, I consequently agree with the declaration of Pope John Paul II to Sainthood, because the Pope " testify to the public respect that he gained. As his mission by virtue of his office, Pope John Paul II emphasised what he called the universal call to holiness and attempted to define the Roman Catholic Church's role in the modern world. He spoke out against communism, imperialism, materialism, Nazism, racism, oppression and unrestrained capitalism. He defended traditional Roman Catholic teachings on human life by opposing abortion, contraception, human cloning, capital punishment, euthanasia, and war. He also defended traditional Roman Catholic teachings on marriage by opposing divorce and same-sex marriage." So, what do you think?

[BeyondElite]

Do you need to have a miracle to be a Saint? No. And we're talking about Catholic Saint. Catholic Saints doesn't necessarily need to perform miracles so they may become Saints. They just need to be holy and do good deeds on Earth, defending their Catholic faith. For instance, Saint Cletus (third Pope of the Roman Catholic Church) became a Saint by defending his faith to Roman Catholicsm and being Holy and doing good deeds on Earth. He was declared Saint because of his martyrdom, even though he didn't perform miracles.

[*kryogenix*]

Do you need to have a miracle to be a Saint?  No.  And we're talking about Catholic Saint.  Catholic Saints doesn't necessarily need to perform miracles so they may become Saints.  They just need to be holy and do good deeds on Earth, defending their Catholic faith.  For instance, Saint Cletus (third Pope of the Roman Catholic Church) became a Saint by defending his faith to Roman Catholicsm and being Holy and doing good deeds on Earth.  He was declared Saint because of his martyrdom, even though he didn't perform miracles.

Karol Wojtyla did not die a martyr. Nor did he produce any miracles. He was a great man, and an even better pope, but I do not think he should become a saint.

[PinoyOtaku]

Karol Wojtyla did not die a martyr. Nor did he produce any miracles. He was a great man, and an even better pope, but I do not think he should become a saint.

Ditto on that. He is a man that not only leads, but represents what us Catholics should uphold. I look back at the family of the person from my HS who was killed in a car crash and I still remember reading articles about them wanted to press charges beyond all recognition to the man of the car that slammed into their late child's pickup. He had a funeral in one of our local Catholic churches and our HS (Catholic...) pretty much had a memorial mass but yet...I think about it...the thought of WWJD would linger. You could either forgive those that have done so much damage, to the extent of costing your life or of a loved one or to have them punished and condemned... Pope John Paul II chose the former, and that's what I wish to see among not only Catholics. Sorry for going off topic, but he does stand out among Catholics not only because he was our Holy Father, but by the compassion he shared. I'm not saying that he dosen't deserve becoming a saint, and of course I'd celebrate with fellow Catholics if he ever does become canonized, but yet...whatever happened to "humble servant"? He does deserve to be known through generations as a man of compassion, along the lines of Gandhi and King, but I dunno when I picture a saint, I would imagine it of a person who instead vowed to live where humanity's ignored live instead of lavish and prestigious surroundings, where the feel of death linger stronger than compared to St. Peter's Square. People like Mother Teresa and Archbishop Romero. But then again, it isn't I that should judge his possibility of sainthood and whatever decision it may become, I'll do my best to support and accept it. Again it's going to be hard to accept when we have Catholics worldwide living and dying in worse conditions but yet withold their faith but yet we don't hear any echo of "sainthood" going to them. JPII was an excellent leader for our Church and future Pontiffs should at continue on his legacy.