Fatism, Destiny and Fate |
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Fatism, Destiny and Fate |
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![]() You can call me Jon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Duplicate Posts: 878 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 9,806 ![]() |
I don't know many people that are Fatists, people that believe in Destiny, and a set course in path and in life. It may be either they don't want to believe it, or simply don't see the benefit, or maybe they don't understand it enough about it to think that it could work.
All choices are governed by factors, by influences. These factors are cancelled, reduced, and summed to calculate the end decision. The result of the choice reacts, and causes other factors, which then influence more choice. This endless cycle of cause and effect; of factor and choice is known as Fate -- Destiny. Everything that has ever happened, happened the way it should have. There are no mistakes, simply, because Fate does not pose as a question with variation, but a statement. Fact, not opinion. Cause and effect are the only constants. All factors, when calculated out and completely influenced the sides of a decision will create the outcome. The outcome is then another choice. These factors are direct causes of choice, making variation an impossibility. This is the essence of the inevitabilty. To think of Destiny as a helplessness, a weakness of non-control, it can be thought of on the contrary. It can be a strength: to know that what you do is with purpose, with pure decision and meaning; with an ultimatum of complete solidarity. It provides us with meaning in all actions, creating every movement, sound, and touch an art form within itself. FOR MOVIE GOERS ============ Now, it might sound familiar. "Our choices are predetermined" only the "illusion of choice". Well I swear to you that there is one peice of culture that can actually explain the concept well. You've all heard of it before. Bullet-dodging, flying kicks, black leather suits and tight jackets. The Matrix. Right. I know. But they do it well. Probably the largest portion of the movie that can coincide with these things are scenes with the Merovingian, the Oracle, the Architect and Smith. Mostly in Reloaded. If you listen to them carefully, and actually try to understand what they say, it can make sense. IN A NUTSHELL Opinions? |
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![]() cheeeesy like theres no tomorrow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 3,316 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 37,142 ![]() |
^ i think what he/she meant is that God already knows what is going to happen to us. yes it is true he gave us free will but i think she stated that incorrectly by saying "controls". God knows everything that goes on but he does not control it.
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![]() Quand j'étais jeune... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 ![]() |
QUOTE(pandamonium @ Apr 18 2005, 1:28 PM) ^ i think what he/she meant is that God already knows what is going to happen to us. yes it is true he gave us free will but i think she stated that incorrectly by saying "controls". God knows everything that goes on but he does not control it. Actually, no. Christians believe in predestination. It's a doctrine that says a person's destiny is determined by God. Predestination has roots in the Old Testament, if you don't believe me. He, not only "knows" fate/destiny, He determines it. |
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