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Thou shall not kill....circumstantial or not?, Is is justified to kill baby Hitler?
XoJennaoX
post Apr 15 2005, 08:02 AM
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As a young person you travel back in time to pre-World War II Germany, intending to kill the infant Adolf Hitler in order to prevent the horrors of the Holocaust. Disguising yourself as a housekeeper, you infiltrate the Hitler household, where you experience the environment that possibly shaped Hitler's warped thinking - his abusive, racist father and his weak, ineffective mother.

But killing a baby is much more difficult than you'd imagined, and though you try several times to commit the act, you find yourself either unable or prevented from doing it. Finally, you steal the infant out of his crib and though you are followed by the child's nanny, manage to leap from a bridge, drowning both yourself and the baby Hitler.

But history may not be changed! The maid spies a mentally ill gypsy woman sitting with her baby, and buys the child, passing him off to the unwitting Hitler parents as their own baby.

What do you think? Was Hitler born evil (was it in his innate nature to be who he was) or was it other factors? What do you do? Would you kill baby Hitler, or would you not? Would you sacrifice yourself? If you do kill him, you must take the guilty plea of having committed murder on an innocent life. Taking note that Hitler (as an infant) is completely innocent and you yourself have to kill him. It is harder than it sounds.
 
 
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post Apr 16 2005, 11:14 AM
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good question. But it's going to be a mixed answer.

Yes.
It made progress in civilization, a deeper understanding in the value of life, of the human mind, society, and equality.

No.
For the obvious statistics of death, torment, genocide, and racism inflicted upon the world.

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I am leaning toward Yes
I think I would have allowed the Holocaust to continue on. Not because I want to see millions of innocent lives go wrong and be broken apart and have evil inflict half of the world, but because of what we learn from it. Sometimes, we can't really appreciate something until it is gone, even if it is the most dear and precious thing we hold closest to our heart.
 
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post Apr 16 2005, 11:28 AM
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I am leaning toward Yes
I think I would have allowed the Holocaust to continue on. Not because I want to see millions of innocent lives go wrong and be broken apart and have evil inflict half of the world, but because of what we learn from it. Sometimes, we can't really appreciate something until it is gone, even if it is the most dear and precious thing we hold closest to our heart.


Did we really learn from it?....that always seems to be our excuse when something goes wrong...to look for the good in the outcome. Sorry if i don't agree that not much "good" came out of the holocaust...it is not like the world suddenly learned its lesson.....genocide still happens everyday!

To your last post : You again are still YOU...one person...what can you do to change the outcome? it is almost impossible.
 
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post Apr 16 2005, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 16 2005, 11:28 AM)
Did we really learn from it?....that always seems to be our excuse when something goes wrong...to look for the good in the outcome. Sorry if i don't agree that not much "good" came out of the holocaust...it is not like the world suddenly learned its lesson.....genocide still happens everyday!

Again, I am not justifying the Holocaust by saying we learned something from it, and yes, we did. Genocide happens every day. Right. We have murders and they've been convicted and thrown to jail. Others still happen every day. I didn't say that the Holocaust would stop genocide comepletely. But we finally understand why and why we cannot tolerate it at all. That is our lesson. Tolerance. Can't you agree that society has made a siginificant change since WWII?

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To your last post : You again are still YOU...one person...what can you do to change the outcome? it is almost impossible.

Hitler was just him. Only him. Look what he did.
 

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XoJennaoX   Thou shall not kill....circumstantial or not?   Apr 15 2005, 08:02 AM
XaZnX07   wow tough but changing the past can result in dram...   Apr 15 2005, 08:25 AM
InLove_x   The world could be a completely different place if...   Apr 15 2005, 09:02 AM
ryfitaDF   no one is born evil. that's a fairy tale.peopl...   Apr 15 2005, 12:00 PM
racoons > you   no one is born evil. personalyl, if i had the powe...   Apr 15 2005, 03:06 PM
WinterNights2   I would have killed him so fast it's not a jok...   Apr 15 2005, 03:10 PM
Ninja X   Kill baby hitler. Expect worse things to happen no...   Apr 15 2005, 07:33 PM
sadolakced acid   hitler was not evil at birth. it was the great wa...   Apr 15 2005, 07:48 PM
Shattered_Hope   I think that he or anyone else was not born evil.....   Apr 15 2005, 11:30 PM
sadolakced acid   hitler didn't hate jews. hitler blamed them...   Apr 15 2005, 11:55 PM
ikayto   I agree with most of the people up there, leave hi...   Apr 16 2005, 12:04 AM
cocoalightning27   Couldn't we take him and raise him and make hi...   Apr 16 2005, 07:58 AM
sammi rules you   GREAT topic. i think if he wasn't brought up ...   Apr 16 2005, 08:24 AM
racoons > you   QUOTEagain, you are still just - you. You do not h...   Apr 16 2005, 08:26 AM
XoJennaoX   QUOTEnone of it is realistic... thats the point of...   Apr 16 2005, 08:32 AM
racoons > you   QUOTEbut again you have to take the premises as th...   Apr 16 2005, 09:09 AM
xXYouMeBedNowXx   Here's my point. There is something that came ...   Apr 16 2005, 10:57 AM
racoons > you   QUOTEHere's my point. There is something that ...   Apr 16 2005, 11:01 AM
xXYouMeBedNowXx   good question. But it's going to be a mixed an...   Apr 16 2005, 11:14 AM
XoJennaoX   QUOTEI am leaning toward Yes I think I would have ...   Apr 16 2005, 11:28 AM
xXYouMeBedNowXx   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 16 2005, 11:28 AM)Did w...   Apr 16 2005, 12:46 PM
XoJennaoX   QUOTEAgain, I am not justifying the Holocaust by s...   Apr 16 2005, 01:09 PM
xXYouMeBedNowXx   QUOTE(XoJennaoX @ Apr 16 2005, 1:09 PM)The wo...   Apr 16 2005, 01:19 PM
ermfermoo   There are two conditions. 1. If you're in th...   Apr 16 2005, 11:14 AM
XoJennaoX   QUOTEThere are two conditions. 1. If you're ...   Apr 16 2005, 11:23 AM
racoons > you   QUOTEI am leaning toward Yes I think I would have ...   Apr 16 2005, 11:21 AM
xXYouMeBedNowXx   Do you think it's possible to instead, change ...   Apr 16 2005, 11:24 AM
ermfermoo   But if you were in that time, you wouldn't kno...   Apr 16 2005, 11:28 AM
XoJennaoX   QUOTEBut if you were in that time, you wouldn...   Apr 16 2005, 11:30 AM
pandamonium   i think that if hitler was killed as a baby or som...   Apr 16 2005, 12:16 PM
Frankie   i don't think he was born evil. he was just a ...   Apr 16 2005, 01:15 PM
daintyme   this may sound werid, but if given the chance, i w...   Apr 16 2005, 10:14 PM
hosing   QUOTE(daintyme @ Apr 16 2005, 10:14 PM)this m...   Apr 17 2005, 10:51 AM
XoJennaoX   QUOTEthis may sound werid, but if given the chance...   Apr 17 2005, 02:03 PM


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