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Christopher Columbus, the discoverer of America?
panaginip13
post Apr 3 2005, 08:18 PM
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Okay, so I searched for a topic on this, and couldn't find one so I decided to make one. If there is a topic on this, feel free to close this and smack me upside the head for my inability to find things. pinch.gif

Columbus is often known as the discoverer of America. He came across America during his exploration and shared his discovery with Europe. This caused more Europeans to explore and settle in America, helping make America what it is today. However, some do not think that Columbus discovered America because of the Vikings and Native Americans that were there before him and for many other reasons.

Should Columbus be the one credited for discovering America? If not, who should be?
 
 
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sadolakced acid
post Apr 9 2005, 12:37 AM
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1. columbus was not the first european in the 'new world'
2. columbus never knew he found a 'new world'

i know who it was who first said "this is a new world!" to the europeans. He was Amerigo Vespucci.

i know the first european in the 'new world'. he was lief erikson.

so why should columbus be credited with discovering america, or inspiring others to america?
 
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post Apr 9 2005, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Apr 9 2005, 12:37 AM)
1.  columbus was not the first european in the 'new world'
2.  columbus never knew he found a 'new world'
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This is a response I wrote in an earlier topic about hitler and columbus:

In history there was always someone who stumbled on an idea, and someone else who made the idea better and famous. For example, the evolution theory existed before Charles Darwin. Anaximander, Xenophanes, Aristotle and a few more people have made assumptions about evolution, wrote about it and studied what they can about it with what knowledge of science was available during their lifetime. However, what we learned generally learn in school is that Darwin is much credited with formalizing the actual theory.

Why then must Columbus be looked down on if he wasn't the first to reached America when Darwin wasn't the first to think of the evolutionary theory? Like Darwin, he was only testing out his theory. Though miscalculated, know that the people of that era does not have firm knowledge on geography. What else do you expect from them? Certainly not perfection I hope.


Now then, as for Columbus not even knowing what he stumbled on. Many artists died before their paintings become famous... They wouldn't know that their work is now masterpiece worth millions because... well, they died.

In comparison, Columbus died before he had a chance to realize what we now know.
 

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panaginip13   Christopher Columbus   Apr 3 2005, 08:18 PM
lolthissiteisfunny   I don't think so. He might have "discover...   Apr 3 2005, 08:23 PM
sadolakced acid   christopher columbus died without knowing he disco...   Apr 3 2005, 10:23 PM
mizzkim   i think he should be credited.. after all i wouldn...   Apr 3 2005, 10:28 PM
yellowgurl   QUOTE(mizzkim @ Apr 3 2005, 7:28 PM)i think h...   May 2 2005, 01:24 AM
Solipsist   Yeah. Because we don't have a Lief Erikson day...   Apr 3 2005, 10:31 PM
Spirited Away   I've written about this topic before: "T...   Apr 3 2005, 10:40 PM
pandamonium   well he didnt find this country he made it officia...   Apr 3 2005, 11:39 PM
DaTru KataLYST   QUOTE(pandamonium @ Apr 3 2005, 9:39 PM)well ...   Apr 4 2005, 07:46 PM
PinoyOtaku   IMO I just remember him as the person that began/p...   Apr 4 2005, 02:35 AM
i heart john   He didn't actually discover America. It's ...   Apr 4 2005, 04:15 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(pandamonium @ Apr 3 2005, 10:39 PM)well...   Apr 4 2005, 05:09 PM
Frankie   obviously he didn't discover it because the na...   Apr 4 2005, 05:37 PM
sadolakced acid   amerigo vespucci was the 'first' to realiz...   Apr 4 2005, 08:02 PM
pandamonium   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Apr 4 2005, 8:02 PM)a...   Apr 9 2005, 01:16 AM
Spirited Away   However, he inspired further exploration of it for...   Apr 4 2005, 08:51 PM
xd0rkette   I'd give that guy atleast some credit. He did ...   Apr 4 2005, 10:38 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(xd0rkette @ Apr 4 2005, 10:38 PM)I...   Apr 4 2005, 10:54 PM
weirdness   QUOTE(xd0rkette @ Apr 4 2005, 11:38 PM)I...   Apr 30 2005, 08:49 PM
sadolakced acid   he is not credited with inspiring people to americ...   Apr 4 2005, 10:44 PM
tmauze   I know he wasn't the FIRST one to discover it,...   Apr 8 2005, 11:28 PM
sadolakced acid   1. columbus was not the first european in the ...   Apr 9 2005, 12:37 AM
PinoyOtaku   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Apr 8 2005, 9:37 PM)1...   Apr 9 2005, 01:47 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Apr 9 2005, 12:37 AM)...   Apr 9 2005, 12:03 PM
iNyCxShoRT   Psh. . .christopher columbus didn't discover a...   Apr 30 2005, 06:24 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(iNyCxShoRT @ Apr 30 2005, 6:24 PM)Psh. ...   Apr 30 2005, 07:22 PM
aznxdreamer   hes the one that made it official. but i do think ...   Apr 30 2005, 08:45 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(aznxdreamer @ Apr 30 2005, 8:45 PM)hes ...   Apr 30 2005, 09:59 PM
sadolakced acid   christopher collumbus discovered 'India'. ...   Apr 30 2005, 10:04 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Apr 30 2005, 10:04 PM...   Apr 30 2005, 10:08 PM
ROARxD   i think coloumbus should be given HALF of hte cred...   Apr 30 2005, 10:32 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ROARxD @ Apr 30 2005, 10:32 PM)i think ...   Apr 30 2005, 10:36 PM
sadolakced acid   alexander fleming accedientally discovered pennici...   May 1 2005, 12:04 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ May 1 2005, 12:04 PM)...   May 1 2005, 01:11 PM
XoJennaoX   of course Mr. Columbus discovered America...well a...   May 1 2005, 04:39 PM
sadolakced acid   collumbus never realized he discovered a new conti...   May 1 2005, 04:54 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ May 1 2005, 4:54 PM)c...   May 1 2005, 07:31 PM
sadolakced acid   a man sets sail for india, lands there, doesn...   May 1 2005, 09:21 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ May 1 2005, 9:21 PM)a...   May 1 2005, 09:34 PM
rOckThISshYt   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 1 2005, 10:34 PM)Un...   May 4 2005, 02:45 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(rOckThISshYt @ May 4 2005, 2:45 PM)How ...   May 4 2005, 04:47 PM
rOckThISshYt   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 4 2005, 5:47 PM)Fro...   May 4 2005, 06:24 PM
sadolakced acid   but it was amerigo vespucci that said, look guys, ...   May 2 2005, 01:22 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ May 2 2005, 1:22 AM)b...   May 2 2005, 12:00 PM
sadolakced acid   so what would you credit collumbus with? he didn...   May 2 2005, 10:07 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ May 2 2005, 10:07 PM)...   May 2 2005, 10:11 PM
rOckThISshYt   I think the Native Americans have been in America ...   May 3 2005, 04:52 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(rOckThISshYt @ May 3 2005, 4:52 PM)So n...   May 3 2005, 04:54 PM
rOckThISshYt   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 3 2005, 5:54 PM)He ...   May 3 2005, 05:00 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(rOckThISshYt @ May 3 2005, 5:00 PM)Very...   May 3 2005, 05:12 PM
rOckThISshYt   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 3 2005, 6:12 PM)No ...   May 3 2005, 05:39 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(rOckThISshYt @ May 3 2005, 5:39 PM)Ahh....   May 3 2005, 05:55 PM
rOckThISshYt   QUOTEI said more than that. I said CC brought atte...   May 3 2005, 06:00 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(rOckThISshYt @ May 3 2005, 6:00 PM)Ah.....   May 3 2005, 06:06 PM
rOckThISshYt   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 3 2005, 7:06 PM)It...   May 3 2005, 06:10 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(rOckThISshYt @ May 3 2005, 6:10 PM)Haha...   May 3 2005, 06:12 PM
rOckThISshYt   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 3 2005, 7:12 PM)Edi...   May 3 2005, 06:18 PM
sadolakced acid   be he didnt' discover it for the civilized wor...   May 3 2005, 09:27 PM
rOckThISshYt   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ May 3 2005, 10:27 PM)...   May 3 2005, 09:40 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ May 3 2005, 9:27 PM)b...   May 3 2005, 09:54 PM
sadolakced acid   hmm... my definiton of discovery: 1. looking for...   May 4 2005, 07:47 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ May 4 2005, 7:47 PM)h...   May 4 2005, 08:27 PM
rOckThISshYt   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 4 2005, 9:27 PM)Mr....   May 4 2005, 11:35 PM
rOckThISshYt   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 4 2005, 9:27 PM)Mr....   May 4 2005, 11:51 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ May 4 2005, 7:47 PM)h...   May 5 2005, 11:33 PM
rOckThISshYt   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ May 6 2005, 12:33 AM)...   May 5 2005, 11:37 PM
x LUV x ALWAYS x   No, he didn't discover it! I don't rem...   May 4 2005, 11:45 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(x LUV x ALWAYS x @ May 4 2005, 11:45 PM...   May 4 2005, 11:59 PM
rOckThISshYt   QUOTE(x LUV x ALWAYS x @ May 5 2005, 12:45 AM...   May 5 2005, 12:19 AM
sadolakced acid   hmm... but you see, i do discredit all the other ...   May 5 2005, 11:00 PM
rOckThISshYt   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ May 6 2005, 12:00 AM)...   May 5 2005, 11:11 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ May 5 2005, 11:00 PM)...   May 5 2005, 11:59 PM
rOckThISshYt   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 6 2005, 12:59 AM)Th...   May 6 2005, 12:31 AM
sadolakced acid   columbus did do something, yes. it was quite impo...   May 6 2005, 03:37 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ May 6 2005, 3:37 PM)c...   May 6 2005, 08:38 PM
rOckThISshYt   Again, I still believe it has to do with your defi...   May 6 2005, 10:38 PM
sadolakced acid   saying he's the discoveror of america gives co...   May 7 2005, 12:37 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ May 7 2005, 12:37 AM)...   May 7 2005, 02:44 PM
rOckThISshYt   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 7 2005, 3:44 PM)I s...   May 7 2005, 02:52 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(rOckThISshYt @ May 7 2005, 2:52 PM)Now ...   May 7 2005, 03:00 PM
rOckThISshYt   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 7 2005, 4:00 PM) Uh...   May 7 2005, 09:09 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(rOckThISshYt @ May 7 2005, 9:09 PM)Err....   May 7 2005, 10:15 PM
rOckThISshYt   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 7 2005, 11:15 PM)I...   May 7 2005, 10:37 PM
madchenallein   Of all these, DaTruKataLYST is the only one who ha...   May 24 2005, 02:25 AM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(madchenallein @ May 24 2005, 2:25 AM)Of...   May 24 2005, 12:27 PM
madchenallein   Supporting details. I didn't say asians were ...   May 24 2005, 06:47 PM
sadolakced acid   look, just post that as a new topic, if you must. ...   May 25 2005, 04:12 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ May 25 2005, 4:12 PM)...   May 25 2005, 07:01 PM
skateforfree   Chirsterphor columbus never set foot on america he...   May 27 2005, 04:43 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   QUOTE(skateforfree @ May 27 2005, 1:43 PM)Chi...   May 27 2005, 07:43 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(skateforfree @ May 27 2005, 4:43 PM)Chi...   May 27 2005, 09:49 PM
skateforfree   by reading your sig i dont trust you   May 27 2005, 09:41 PM
Angel_Cece   if there were people there... before he went there...   May 27 2005, 09:51 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Angel_Cece @ May 27 2005, 9:51 PM)if th...   May 27 2005, 09:57 PM
mona lisa   Columbus, of course, was not the first person to l...   May 27 2005, 10:42 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(gotnoheart @ May 27 2005, 10:42 PM)Colu...   May 27 2005, 10:58 PM
mona lisa   Haha. You're welcome Fae. (I wish I knew your ...   May 28 2005, 10:23 PM


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