Jesus.Black? |
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Mar 28 2005, 11:36 PM
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think about it, i know like 700 christians are gonna come and scream at me but think about it, he WAS middle eastern...and there is no proof he isnt...so if jesus was black....wouldnt that mean all society is wrong? AND THE WHITE MAN SHOULD BE ON BOTTOM? oh that would be fun...
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Apr 1 2005, 05:50 PM
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HERE IS the full STORY... “Many people are surprised to discover that Christ was a black man, but when one looks at Christ's lineage one discovers that He has numerous Hamatic Ancestors, with Tamar, Rahab, Ruth, Naomi, Bathsheba and Jezabel being the most notable.” There is not one place in the New Testament that describes the appearance of Jesus. The picture the world recognizes as Jesus seems to be the same image from the Shroud of Turin, however, the shroud does not show white or colored skin. Can we deduce from His genealogy if there was indeed Hamatic Ancestors? Actually a few colored people in the genealogy does not give any indication of His skin color as many Caucasian people have at least one colored ancestor somewhere in the recent family tree. However, there may be several reasons why the New Testament doesn’t say a word about the physical appearance of Jesus. If Jesus were depicted as Caucasian or Colored, would that indicate that one is better than the other? One must be very careful when jumping to assumptions about His appearance, especially when we consider the only physical description given in the Bible of Jesus: Just as there were many who were appalled at Him – His appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any man and His form marred beyond human likeness….He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to Him, nothing in His appearance that we should desire Him. He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces He was despised, and we esteemed Him not. Isaiah 52:14 - 53:1-3 Many Christians become very defensive when their perception of Jesus as the perfect looking human being is shattered by the above passage. The first comment I’ve received in talking about this to other Christians is that this passage in Isaiah must refer to what Jesus looked like after being beaten by the Roman soldiers before and during the crucifixion, not before. However, one must look at Isaiah and read it carefully, no one was going to be attracted to Him by His physical attributes. Today, as in the time of the ministry of Jesus, we come to faith not based on Jesus’ physical characteristics as the authors don’t provide us with any clues other than the great detail of His attributes when He is in a transfigured state on the mountain and a similar description in Revelation, but the authors are silent on His normal everyday appearance. In our world so many popular modern day celebrities become adored and honored because of their physical characteristics. We only need to go to the magazine stand and look at the covers to confirm this human trait of cherishing beauty over accomplishments. If you were to make up a religion, would the Messiah not be the most beautifully attractive person to walk the Earth? The fact that Isaiah indicates otherwise and the New Testament writers leave out any physical description adds to the facts that the Bible is a genuine book based not on human ideas and perceptions but on that of a Creator who does not force Himself on people with all the powers available to Him through creating physical attraction with the Messiah, but does it the hardest way possible, through words and actions. Was Jesus not perfect before His death? We read that He was without sin, but that doesn’t mean that He looked perfect. In fact we read that the disciples didn’t recognize Him after He was resurrected and could in fact change His form. After that (appearing to Mary Magdalene), He appeared in another form to two of them (disciples) as they walked and went into the country. Mark 16:12 What kind of disfigurement would Jesus have had? Job, a blameless and upright man, one who fears God and shuns evil (Job 1:8) has to suffer from Boils that covered his skin from top to bottom. We can only speculate on what qualities or lack of them Jesus had that would cause men to despise Him because of the way He appeared. In reviewing the Isaiah passage and coming to terms with them I find myself questioning my own feelings on all people I meet. The saying is true “Beauty is only skin deep”. Would I have shunned Jesus and ignored Him because of the way he looked? Have I shunned others in my life because of the way they looked? Have others done this to me? Can I change my attitude and accept people for who they are and what they can become inside and not for how they look on the outside? Let’s learn from this and become more accepting of all people. If Jesus decided to approach you today as he appeared back then how would you react? Will Jesus treat you the way you treat others? |
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Apr 1 2005, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(wolverine00 @ Apr 1 2005, 5:50 PM) That person better be kidding. But, I can understand that have a "sheltered" mind can cause some ppl to say things that may be inappropriate. Neways, the only reason you haven't seen Jesus as a black man is because historians either refused to accept the possibility of him being black, or it wasn't thought of at the time. But, personally, I think each race or religion chooses what skin color Jesus is. For the most part, Whites wanna believe he's white, blacks wanna believe he's black, etc. etc. But, that's where the problem lies. People become so engrossed with the fact of his skin, that they begin to argue. Here's the real question: Does it matter? In my opinion, no. People can have a variety of opinions, but can still accept others philosiphy. Just because you don't like someone's opinion doesn't mean you can't ACCEPT it as a possibility. |
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Apr 1 2005, 08:30 PM
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Apr 1 2005, 08:47 PM
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Apr 2 2005, 05:37 AM
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QUOTE(wolverine00 @ Apr 2 2005, 2:47 AM) Of course you havent because that's what everyone thinks. I don't care if jesus is white or not, (im not a christian) its funny i thought race didnt matter to christians, i guess not. |
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JC4P Jesus.Black? Mar 28 2005, 11:36 PM
yukichan interesting thought...it is possible..but not all ... Mar 28 2005, 11:38 PM
eunie03 I don't think Jesus was all about who was on t... Mar 28 2005, 11:38 PM
iheartsimba QUOTE(eunie03 @ Mar 28 2005, 11:38 PM)I don... Mar 29 2005, 09:56 PM
lolthissiteisfunny shouldn't in theory, no one be on the bottom??... Mar 28 2005, 11:39 PM
v@por ah it doesn't matter
everyone's a person
... Mar 28 2005, 11:42 PM
lolthissiteisfunny ^^ hehe. possibly..let me go try..lol
ya, I dun... Mar 28 2005, 11:46 PM
JC4P not all are black but Most are. I'm from middl... Mar 28 2005, 11:47 PM
lolthissiteisfunny really? weird? where in the middle east are you fr... Mar 28 2005, 11:49 PM
JC4P I"m not sure if it is...I'm from Iran
and... Mar 28 2005, 11:49 PM
lolthissiteisfunny QUOTE(JC4P @ Mar 28 2005, 10:49 PM)I"m n... Mar 28 2005, 11:57 PM
JC4P QUOTE(lolthissiteisfunny @ Mar 28 2005, 11:57... Mar 29 2005, 12:08 AM
barelyy_coherent Being Middle Eastern doesn't mean you're b... Mar 28 2005, 11:53 PM
WhiteLotus* QUOTE(barelyy_coherent @ Mar 28 2005, 8:53 PM... Mar 29 2005, 12:43 AM
JC4P i never said that. poophead Mar 28 2005, 11:55 PM
barelyy_coherent QUOTE(JC4P @ Mar 28 2005, 8:55 PM)i never sai... Mar 29 2005, 12:10 AM
tainted_faerie That's weird to say. Why should ANYONE be on t... Mar 29 2005, 12:03 AM
dani41790 Hmm im christian and im open to the fact that jesu... Mar 29 2005, 12:03 AM
salcha He was born in Bethlehem, and Mary and Joseph don... Mar 29 2005, 12:12 AM
xquizit ^ how do you know what Mary and Joseph looked like... Mar 29 2005, 12:14 AM
JC4P how many times did u just say "and also... Mar 29 2005, 12:16 AM
waccoon QUOTE(JC4P @ Mar 29 2005, 12:16 AM)how many t... Mar 29 2005, 12:20 AM

tainted_faerie QUOTE(waccoon @ Mar 29 2005, 12:20 AM)Whites ... Mar 29 2005, 12:25 AM
barelyy_coherent QUOTE(JC4P @ Mar 28 2005, 9:16 PM)how many ti... Mar 29 2005, 12:22 AM
salcha QUOTE(barelyy_coherent @ Mar 29 2005, 12:22 A... Mar 29 2005, 12:50 AM
DaTru KataLYST Jesus was Asian. This, you cannot dispute.
Duh... Mar 29 2005, 12:17 AM
JC4P QUOTE(DaTru KataLYST @ Mar 29 2005, 12:17 AM)... Mar 29 2005, 12:20 AM
sandy_lumpy_shore QUOTE(DaTru KataLYST @ Mar 29 2005, 12:17 AM)... Apr 1 2005, 04:06 PM
~*Crizzy_Babee09*~ Yes, the bible says Jesus' skin wuz burnt bras... Mar 29 2005, 12:18 AM
DaTru KataLYST ^ THAT did not make sense.
DID YOU KNOW?! The... Mar 29 2005, 12:21 AM
~*Crizzy_Babee09*~ Well then if it's easy for you.
Yea, exactl... Mar 29 2005, 12:22 AM
bRoKeNxALoNE No..it would just mean that he is Hindew or someth... Mar 29 2005, 12:26 AM
JC4P see it wasnt that hard to be understood!
but I... Mar 29 2005, 12:26 AM
barelyy_coherent QUOTE(JC4P @ Mar 28 2005, 9:26 PM)see it wasn... Mar 29 2005, 12:28 AM
DaTru KataLYST QUOTE(JC4P @ Mar 28 2005, 9:26 PM)see it wasn... Mar 29 2005, 12:28 AM
tainted_faerie //edit Mar 29 2005, 12:29 AM
DaTru KataLYST ^x2 HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. Mar 29 2005, 12:27 AM
~*Crizzy_Babee09*~ Well I say Jesus is Everythang. Mar 29 2005, 12:27 AM
barelyy_coherent It has never hit me until now how many people onli... Mar 29 2005, 12:29 AM
JC4P QUOTE(barelyy_coherent @ Mar 29 2005, 12:29 A... Mar 29 2005, 12:31 AM
barelyy_coherent QUOTE(JC4P @ Mar 28 2005, 9:31 PM)You've ... Mar 29 2005, 12:32 AM
lolita kitty QUOTEAND THE WHITE MAN SHOULD BE ON BOTTOM
wow, m... Mar 29 2005, 12:30 AM
~*Crizzy_Babee09*~ Wut does it matta about his race? HE DIED FOR OUR ... Mar 29 2005, 12:32 AM
niez_cho Huh... what the heck?
Middle Eastern doesn't e... Mar 29 2005, 12:37 AM
JC4P Dartu did u just swear? Vishnu? YOUR USING FANCY W... Mar 29 2005, 12:37 AM
~*Crizzy_Babee09*~ Seein' how people are dese dayz, they wouldn... Mar 29 2005, 12:38 AM
JC4P Talking bout views...i got a question. do u think ... Mar 29 2005, 12:41 AM
lolita kitty hm, not to intrude, but i think this might go in d... Mar 29 2005, 12:41 AM
tainted_faerie ^^thats what i said Cassie. Mar 29 2005, 12:41 AM
~*Crizzy_Babee09*~ Aha, Sum Levi jeans n a shirt. U is crazi! lol... Mar 29 2005, 12:48 AM
DaTru KataLYST how oddly out of place would people feel when ange... Mar 29 2005, 12:53 AM
tungtwista hmm..i'm not a religious person. but i'm g... Mar 29 2005, 01:02 AM
FreeStickers What does Jesus's race have to do with who... Mar 29 2005, 01:06 AM
cherry_toothpaste if He were to come again, he might not even come o... Mar 29 2005, 01:07 AM
~*Crizzy_Babee09*~ ohh! This is going to be a HOT topic. Well I c... Mar 29 2005, 01:07 AM
JC4P QUOTE(~*Crizzy_Babee09*~ @ Mar 29 2005, 1:07 ... Mar 29 2005, 09:58 PM
~*Crizzy_Babee09*~ yea only the Saved ones will hear the trumpet soun... Mar 29 2005, 01:16 AM
xXirockhardXx I think this topic should be in debate. But n.e wa... Mar 29 2005, 01:24 AM
xquizit If you really want answers, perhaps you should ope... Mar 29 2005, 02:44 AM
niez_cho QUOTE(xquizit @ Mar 29 2005, 3:44 PM)If you r... Mar 29 2005, 02:50 AM
toodlepops. why does it matter? x__X Mar 29 2005, 05:01 AM
Weird addiction LMFAOOOO jesus may be black, lol. Jesus is suppose... Mar 29 2005, 10:23 AM
Yemmerz If Jesus was portrayed as Black everywhere (cos He... Mar 29 2005, 10:38 AM
racoons > you jesus was a jew.
and if you're worried about... Mar 29 2005, 10:41 AM
juliar i'm not exactly christian, but i dont think th... Mar 29 2005, 03:02 PM
ermfermoo If he was middle eastern and black, then he would ... Mar 29 2005, 03:58 PM
nightmare4taki Did you guys hear about the remains of a really ol... Mar 29 2005, 04:01 PM
mizztaytay4ya Wait?! What kind of question is that ?? lol Mar 29 2005, 04:50 PM
xd0rkette Jesus is probably everything. Mar 29 2005, 05:10 PM
mizztaytay4ya QUOTE(xd0rkette @ Mar 29 2005, 6:10 PM)Jesus ... Mar 29 2005, 05:19 PM
miss barnes well, i dont know but, i think that Jesus was dark... Mar 29 2005, 09:54 PM
lolthissiteisfunny I don't think anyone bases their treatment of ... Mar 29 2005, 10:04 PM
~*Crizzy_Babee09*~ Yea, dat's wut I said. Jesus Is Evrythang. But... Mar 29 2005, 10:24 PM
speight89 This Pagan says that he was not black but really t... Apr 1 2005, 03:48 PM
JlIaTMK wait, you are very confusing.
Okay, let me start
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speight89 QUOTE(JlIaTMK @ Apr 1 2005, 8:52 PM)wait, you... Apr 1 2005, 03:58 PM
speight89 No Israeli AKA Palestinian even i know that Apr 1 2005, 04:08 PM
xquizit QUOTE(wolverine00 @ Apr 1 2005, 5:50 PM) lol.... Apr 1 2005, 07:37 PM

xquizit QUOTE(wolverine00 @ Apr 1 2005, 8:47 PM)Excep... Apr 2 2005, 02:55 PM
blkpride QUOTE(wolverine00 @ Apr 1 2005, 5:50 PM) lol.... Apr 1 2005, 07:57 PM
cocogirl There's a good chance Jesus was not white.... ... Apr 1 2005, 06:06 PM
Miss[x]Tiff well, if you want to get technical...
Were all b... Apr 1 2005, 06:15 PM
wolverine00 QUOTE(Miss[x]Tiff @ Apr 1 2005, 3:15... Apr 1 2005, 06:18 PM
Miss[x]Tiff QUOTE(wolverine00 @ Apr 1 2005, 6:18 PM)If yo... Apr 1 2005, 06:22 PM
wolverine00 QUOTE(Miss[x]Tiff @ Apr 1 2005, 3:22... Apr 1 2005, 06:48 PM
Miss[x]Tiff QUOTE(wolverine00 @ Apr 1 2005, 6:48 PM)OH ya... Apr 1 2005, 07:12 PM
glit_gal nice point and all but since when are people from ... Apr 1 2005, 06:21 PM
mizzkim if your from the middle east it doesnt mean your ... Apr 1 2005, 06:59 PM
sm0kinm0nky lol its possible Apr 1 2005, 08:48 PM
paul murphy QUOTE: and speight, enough with the pagan thing, i... Apr 2 2005, 05:24 AM
Shadow_Valkyrie excuse me?? WHY THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING BOUT JESU... Apr 2 2005, 09:14 AM
blkpride QUOTE(Shadow_Valkyrie @ Apr 2 2005, 9:14 AM) ... Apr 3 2005, 01:06 AM
Lightner depends what u believe in... to me there are diffe... Apr 3 2005, 01:11 AM![]() ![]() |