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supreme court ruling, for those that support the death penalty
heyyfrankie
post Mar 2 2005, 07:39 PM
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i heard last night that the supreme court made a new ruling that minors that commit a crime cannot be sentenced to the death penalty. it is effecting 19 states. (i think). i, personally, think that is not right. their age has nothing to do with wheter they should get the penalty or not. because of this new ruling, 9 criminals are going to be free men (in texas). _dry.gif one of the men that is going to be set free is a man that car-jacked a touring couple, made them drive out into the country begging for their lives, rapped the wife in front of her husband, then killed her before killing him. hammer.gif
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post Mar 10 2005, 10:45 PM
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Three points:

1) How awful I am to suggest that appeals (those things you guys hate that cost so much money) be gotten rid of. You guys need to make up your minds, for one. I'm willing to guess that both of you lean left, because I can never seem to satisfy any of my Democrat comrades, but bear with me. Now, you guys want to spend millions on locking someone up for good. Fine, but I'd like to save a few of those million dollars, and eliminate unnecessary appeals. So we have our positions...

So, all these awful, wrongful executions are happening and capital punishment is a blemish on our country! Sorry, but as a prenote, I must point out that in this imperfect world, nothing worth having comes without risk. Even so, far, far more innocent lives get snatched by convicted murderers than the, according to the American Civil Liberties Union [nice, reputable source, pfft], 23 people who have been mistakenly executed this century.

In fact, I challenge the two of you to find me even ONE example of an innocent being wrongfully executed in the last century. Give me that substantial evidence; my money's in the betting corner that says you can't.

Let's also not forget the upwards of 13,000 Americans who are murdered each year by released and paroled criminals (Stuart Banner, Harvard). One U.S. Senate report said:

All that can be expected of...[human authorities] is that they take every reasonable precaution against the danger of error... If errors are...made, this is the necessary price that must be paid within a society which is made up of human beings.

I hate to burst your bubbles, but the pundits lean my way...

Also, the death penalty isn't the only institution that contain risks in exchange for social benifits. We, in fact, mindlessly use far more dangerous institutions that take the lives of innocents by the hundreds every day, like the three or four tons of lethal metal we call automobiles for example. After all, how can we accept the average 45,000 person a year death toll in this nation due to car wrecks for our personal conveniences when the very slim risk of wrongful executions is so unbearable?

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Frankie   supreme court ruling   Mar 2 2005, 07:39 PM
kryogenix   i don't think they will be free. their death s...   Mar 2 2005, 08:59 PM
yukichan   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Mar 2 2005, 3:59 PM)i don...   Mar 2 2005, 10:04 PM
picaso_smile   I don't believe in the death penalty. Let them...   Mar 3 2005, 06:27 PM
Angel_Cece   i dont like the death penalty. but in the bible......   Mar 3 2005, 06:34 PM
sadolakced acid   the bible also says 'thou shalt not kill',...   Mar 3 2005, 06:42 PM
Teesa   I agree that it is not right also. Unless the susp...   Mar 3 2005, 09:07 PM
espionage   But then we're wasting money on life sentences...   Mar 5 2005, 07:21 PM
sadolakced acid   cost more to put someone to death... anyways; th...   Mar 5 2005, 10:21 PM
CrackedRearView   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Mar 5 2005, 9:21 PM)c...   Mar 9 2005, 05:17 PM
Individualityy   We had this debate in our Civics class.. I think....   Mar 6 2005, 12:05 AM
DizBukHahNi   I cant belive al this nonsense of mercy and redemp...   Mar 8 2005, 11:15 PM
sadolakced acid   well, this is america, and usually appeals ARE all...   Mar 9 2005, 06:00 PM
DizBukHahNi   Even a thirteen year old knows that theres no comi...   Mar 9 2005, 06:09 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(DizBukHahNi @ Mar 9 2005, 5:09 PM)Even ...   Mar 9 2005, 06:19 PM
CrackedRearView   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Mar 9 2005, 5:19 PM)a...   Mar 10 2005, 05:24 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Mar 10 2005, 4:24 PM)...   Mar 10 2005, 05:53 PM
DizBukHahNi   They are allowed too many appeals   Mar 9 2005, 07:39 PM
sadolakced acid   how many is too many? isn't it better to make...   Mar 9 2005, 09:22 PM
racoons > you   ^^ man convicted for bombing, check man executed...   Mar 10 2005, 05:41 PM
xd0rkette   They should be treated as adults. I mean. If they ...   Mar 10 2005, 07:11 PM
CrackedRearView   Three points: 1) How awful I am to suggest that a...   Mar 10 2005, 10:45 PM
sadolakced acid   i still like my antarctica idea. completely rever...   Mar 10 2005, 11:29 PM
sadolakced acid   i still like my antarctica idea. completely rever...   Mar 10 2005, 11:30 PM


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