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The United States' Justice System, In a nutshell.
*CrackedRearView*
post Mar 9 2005, 04:44 PM
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Corrupt. Ignorant. Unteachable. Folly. Stupidity.

Every one of these words would adequately describe the idiocy that is the parole system. Let me tell you a little story...

In 1966 a man named Kenneth Allen McDuff killed three teenagers and went to jail for life on the condition that he would "never have the chance for parole".

Fair enough? I'd say so.

But, in 1991 he was paroled (?) and killed five more women.

The same is the case for many other horrible killers...

What has bred such stupidity in an institute of the United States that was designed to curtail such stupid acts?

I guess the debatable question should be: 'Why is there such a problem in the Justice System, and what can be done to curb it'?
 
 
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Aesirus
post Mar 9 2005, 07:41 PM
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The problem is the punishment structure of our court system.

The only developed country that has kept a consistently low crime rate has been that of Japan. Their justice system has focused on a unique combination of "tough love" and rehabilitation.

They use a system where the criminal has to pay restitution to the victim. A thief might be punished, for example, by paying back the family what he stole, and then some. This method shows people that they have actually caused harms in society. A lot of hardened criminals may be sadists, but most are not.

In the United States, the four lowest crime rates are in Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, and Alaska. Of those states, two (Vermont and Alaska) allow concelaed carry of handguns with no permit, and the other two issue concealed carry permits on a "shall-issue" basis. In addition, three (Vermont, NH, and Maine) allow prisoners to vote while in jail. This helps integrate them into society rather than alienating them further. And it also provides a check, since if the number of people in jail was so big that they became a viable political constitutency, then that would be a problem in the system itself.
 
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post Mar 10 2005, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(Aesirus @ Mar 9 2005, 6:41 PM)
The problem is the punishment structure of our court system.

The only developed country that has kept a consistently low crime rate has been that of Japan. Their justice system has focused on a unique combination of "tough love" and rehabilitation.

They use a system where the criminal has to pay restitution to the victim. A thief might be punished, for example, by paying back the family what he stole, and then some. This method shows people that they have actually caused harms in society. A lot of hardened criminals may be sadists, but most are not.

In the United States, the four lowest crime rates are in Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, and Alaska. Of those states, two (Vermont and Alaska) allow concelaed carry of handguns with no permit, and the other two issue concealed carry permits on a "shall-issue" basis. In addition, three (Vermont, NH, and Maine) allow prisoners to vote while in jail. This helps integrate them into society rather than alienating them further. And it also provides a check, since if the number of people in jail was so big that they became a viable political constitutency, then that would be a problem in the system itself.
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They use a system where the criminal has to pay restitution to the victim. A thief might be punished, for example, by paying back the family what he stole, and then some. This method shows people that they have actually caused harms in society. A lot of hardened criminals may be sadists, but most are not.

You run into problems when the killer is a homeless man who stabbed a storekeeper trying to prevent him from taking a bag of Cheez-Its (Kareem Allen).

In the United States, the four lowest crime rates are in Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, and Alaska. Of those states, two (Vermont and Alaska) allow concelaed carry of handguns with no permit, and the other two issue concealed carry permits on a "shall-issue" basis. In addition, three (Vermont, NH, and Maine) allow prisoners to vote while in jail. This helps integrate them into society rather than alienating them further. And it also provides a check, since if the number of people in jail was so big that they became a viable political constitutency, then that would be a problem in the system itself.

Two points:

1) Two years ago in Psychology AP I learned about something called an illusory correlation. Now, the idea behind this is that two things, whether positively or negatively correlated, can quite possibly be hardly related.

Problem with your correlation is that Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, and Alaska are four of the least populous states, ergo, they have substantially less crime. But, according to the U.S. Justice Dept., crime rates in Minnesota and Washington are very similar to that of those four states, and conceal-and-carry laws are a non-issue there.
 

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CrackedRearView   The United States' Justice System   Mar 9 2005, 04:44 PM
sadolakced acid   the problem is people who shouldn't become jud...   Mar 9 2005, 04:52 PM
CrackedRearView   And in James Moore's case, when a sentencing l...   Mar 9 2005, 05:07 PM
sadolakced acid   well, there is no real solution; becuase in the en...   Mar 9 2005, 06:02 PM
DizBukHahNi   We should have the period in between conviction an...   Mar 9 2005, 06:16 PM
Frankie   i agree. i don't know what is wrong with the j...   Mar 9 2005, 06:18 PM
Aesirus   The problem is the punishment structure of our cou...   Mar 9 2005, 07:41 PM
CrackedRearView   QUOTE(Aesirus @ Mar 9 2005, 6:41 PM)The probl...   Mar 10 2005, 05:17 PM
racoons > you   every human will have a different set of morals, n...   Mar 10 2005, 05:24 PM
CrackedRearView   QUOTE(MarchHare2UrAlice @ Mar 10 2005, 4:24 P...   Mar 10 2005, 05:31 PM
racoons > you   ^^ o i didnt mean that we should try to get thin...   Mar 10 2005, 05:37 PM
f4113n   QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Mar 9 2005, 5:44 PM)W...   Mar 10 2005, 10:09 PM
CrackedRearView   QUOTE(f4113n @ Mar 10 2005, 9:09 PM)oh and u ...   Mar 10 2005, 10:21 PM
sadolakced acid   i still like my antarctica idea. completely rever...   Mar 10 2005, 11:31 PM
sadolakced acid   bleh... servers...   Mar 10 2005, 11:45 PM
nevernothere   You know what? No justice system is perfect. Ours ...   Mar 10 2005, 11:50 PM
CrackedRearView   QUOTE(nevernothere @ Mar 10 2005, 10:50 PM)Yo...   Mar 11 2005, 12:02 AM
nightmare4taki   Our justice system is f*cked up. Its all based on ...   Mar 31 2005, 02:58 PM
Individualityy   Our justice system would rather have guilty people...   Mar 31 2005, 03:39 PM
sadolakced acid   ok. i accuse you of murder. you might be guilty,...   Mar 31 2005, 08:46 PM


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