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fur, what's your stand
eunie03
post Feb 24 2005, 02:25 PM
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mysticbreeze
post Mar 4 2005, 11:17 PM
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the fur industry is, to me, moral.

the only furs alloweed to be imported to the US are from animmals that can be used as food.

which means; rabbits are allowed, cats and dogs are not.


Foxes, coyotes, raccoons and chinchilla aren't used for food and fur coats are made out of them in the United States. Besides who are we to say which animals should be killed and which shouldn't be killed for fur? Fur clothing has no purpose but to make selfish people who don't care about anything look rich. The animals were killed for clothing, clothing that has alternatives. We aren't freaking cavemen here.

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PETA (err... members of PETA) do bomb buildings. I'm not for that whole... passion-on-overdrive thing. I think it's insane. But to be fair, non-members of PETA bomb buildings too. We're human. Some of us are like that. What're you gonna do? Just because a few bad apples are in an organization doesn't mean the entire group stands for it.


True. The Peta website has a page about etiquitte when conducting a demonstration or protesting. They don't say anything about "bombing building" blah blah. The people who do those things are extremists and don't represent the company.

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well, i could forgive the group when their members do the whole bombing thing; but not when they pass out graphic pamphlets to children.

like "your mommy kills animals" with graphic pictures of women killing animals.

yes; it happens in the world. but that's no reason to show 1st or 2nd graders that graphic material.

most thier campaigns are graphic and some are directed at kids. Most of them contain wrong facts.

as a result; i think that PETA is not a reliable source. I also believe that they should not be distributing that content to children.

locally, a PETA group convinced a 12 year old girl to demonstrate with them outside a KFC. Without her parent's permission. So the police showed up ( mainly becuase they were on public property) and stuff.

thier message is fundamentally based on a good idea- that humans and animals are equal and should be treated like such- but thier presentation is too militant- religous for me.


Peta pamphlets are nothing compared to the viloence on television kids watch these days. I admit some things are graphic, but they show the truth. The kids can decide what they want to do about it themselves.
 
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post Mar 4 2005, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(mysticbreeze @ Mar 4 2005, 8:17 PM)
Peta pamphlets are nothing compared to the viloence on television kids watch these days.  I admit some things are graphic, but they show the truth.  The kids can decide what they want to do about it themselves.
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i saw the pamphlet when it came out on the peta site, and i found it much more disturbing than anything on tv. the cover was a drawing of a bloody woman with a knive killing a rabbit, and inside there were actual pictures of animals being killed. i don't know what shows you watch, but i don't see anything that bad on tv.
 

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eunie03   fur   Feb 24 2005, 02:25 PM
karrar   omfg where is this taking place ?   Feb 24 2005, 02:49 PM
racoons > you   i am very much against fur... especially the way t...   Feb 24 2005, 03:19 PM
angel-roh   I know same here! It makes me sick of watching...   Feb 24 2005, 04:13 PM
ryfitaDF   i'm against fur. theres no need for it anymore...   Feb 24 2005, 04:20 PM
racoons > you   ^^ they are tw different things meat eating serves...   Feb 24 2005, 04:22 PM
angel-roh   I'm only against with furs, but not meats. We...   Feb 24 2005, 04:37 PM
sadolakced acid   i hardly trust the anything comming from PETA. ...   Feb 24 2005, 07:49 PM
eunie03   Well, police brutality is out of the norm.... not ...   Feb 24 2005, 08:00 PM
racoons > you   ^^ well PETA will inevitably exagerate their side...   Feb 24 2005, 08:17 PM
RandomHero   Yeah sometimes PETA can be way out there. I don...   Feb 24 2005, 08:32 PM
william   i think fur is stupid and unnecessary also. i saw ...   Feb 24 2005, 08:40 PM
sammehmyst   omg. that's so sad. they should leave those a...   Feb 24 2005, 08:54 PM
aznxdreamer   NO NONO NONONONONONONON NON NO NO NONO NON NON O...   Feb 25 2005, 08:09 PM
Freakerr   i sound very air-headed by saying this, but fur is...   Feb 25 2005, 08:41 PM
mysticbreeze   I'm completely against fur. It's horribly...   Feb 25 2005, 11:04 PM
Frankie   << that is how i feel right now! after ...   Feb 25 2005, 11:52 PM
nevernothere   *sighs* That's depressing and inhumane... but ...   Feb 25 2005, 11:57 PM
barelyy_coherent   I don't see a huge problem if the fur is comin...   Feb 25 2005, 11:57 PM
Frankie   QUOTE(barelyy_coherent @ Feb 25 2005, 10:57 P...   Feb 26 2005, 12:01 AM
kokosofly   Oh my... had to stop watching. They definately sh...   Feb 26 2005, 01:21 AM
Spiritual Winged Aura   oh man, that's very sad .... i'm so much a...   Feb 26 2005, 04:11 AM
Frankie   i tryed to watch a little bit more of the video an...   Feb 26 2005, 02:21 PM
redderstarr   omg... the poor animals...   Feb 26 2005, 02:26 PM
racoons > you   QUOTEI don't see a huge problem if the fur is ...   Feb 26 2005, 03:11 PM
kryogenix   that video was disappointing. they didn't even...   Feb 26 2005, 03:37 PM
aznxdreamer   i couldnt believe the thing was still alive after ...   Feb 26 2005, 03:43 PM
mysticbreeze   QUOTEi agree... you can get leather which comes fr...   Feb 28 2005, 03:27 PM
Teesa   the poor things..what they're doing is so crue...   Feb 28 2005, 07:44 PM
jooleeah   Oh, my. I saw the scene where they showed the racc...   Feb 28 2005, 09:08 PM
racoons > you   QUOTEI understand your point but I read that a lot...   Mar 1 2005, 12:35 PM
kryogenix   i'm sure what those guys did in that video is ...   Mar 1 2005, 12:38 PM
Rachel is love   ugh, i couldnt even get past the poor thing gettin...   Mar 1 2005, 04:05 PM
sadolakced acid   fur that doesn't come from food animals isn...   Mar 1 2005, 05:49 PM
racoons > you   ^^ lol because disection hasnt proved at all cont...   Mar 1 2005, 06:03 PM
eunie03   QUOTE(MarchHare2UrAlice @ Mar 1 2005, 6:03 PM...   Mar 1 2005, 10:20 PM
mysticbreeze   Wearing fur is wrong no matter if the animals were...   Mar 3 2005, 05:05 PM
sadolakced acid   faux fur is sythetic. my religion prohibits me ...   Mar 3 2005, 10:59 PM
largosama   It's not so much as as wasteful; they chuck th...   Mar 4 2005, 01:58 AM
sadolakced acid   no, they don't. there is no way a sane person...   Mar 4 2005, 05:29 PM
mysticbreeze   QUOTEfaux fur is sythetic. my religion prohibits...   Mar 4 2005, 05:58 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(mysticbreeze @ Mar 4 2005, 4:58 PM)Uh.....   Mar 4 2005, 06:19 PM
largosama   so um... foxes shouldn't be used I suppose. F...   Mar 4 2005, 06:49 PM
sadolakced acid   i dunno. maybe people eat foxes somewhere?   Mar 4 2005, 07:06 PM
eunie03   Who decides what animals are okay to eat and not t...   Mar 4 2005, 10:01 PM
sadolakced acid   well, i could forgive the group when their members...   Mar 4 2005, 11:15 PM
mysticbreeze   QUOTEthe fur industry is, to me, moral. the only...   Mar 4 2005, 11:17 PM
william   QUOTE(mysticbreeze @ Mar 4 2005, 8:17 PM)Peta...   Mar 4 2005, 11:29 PM
sadolakced acid   sure; fur has no purpose now. Synthetics are much...   Mar 4 2005, 11:24 PM
mysticbreeze   QUOTEsure; fur has no purpose now. Synthetics are ...   Mar 4 2005, 11:30 PM
william   QUOTE(mysticbreeze @ Mar 4 2005, 8:30 PM)If P...   Mar 4 2005, 11:52 PM
sadolakced acid   fine. i love the killing. the only reason i lik...   Mar 4 2005, 11:33 PM
mysticbreeze   QUOTEfine. i love the killing. the only reason i...   Mar 4 2005, 11:35 PM
sadolakced acid   i dunno. i like the idea of them. like i said,...   Mar 4 2005, 11:38 PM
mysticbreeze   This topic is about fur not leather. But since yo...   Mar 4 2005, 11:46 PM
sadolakced acid   i'm not talking about hides... i'm talking...   Mar 4 2005, 11:48 PM
mysticbreeze   I still don't think fur manufacturing is natur...   Mar 4 2005, 11:51 PM
eunie03   QUOTE(mysticbreeze @ Mar 4 2005, 11:51 PM)I s...   Mar 5 2005, 12:40 AM
mysticbreeze   QUOTEyou have a point, but i just think that's...   Mar 5 2005, 12:03 AM
yuna*   omg..they are ripping off the fur while the animal...   Mar 11 2005, 11:24 PM
c0oki3_m0n$tah   i understand they needed fur like couple hundred y...   Mar 13 2005, 01:49 PM
yellowgurl   its just wrong. faux fur.. is just as real ..   Apr 6 2005, 01:42 AM
wounded   Do we wear humans for clothes? I think not.   Apr 6 2005, 05:47 PM
Paradox of Life   Sadolakced acid, I really don't understand wha...   Apr 6 2005, 09:16 PM
sadolakced acid   you do understand that faux fur is probably petrol...   Apr 6 2005, 09:36 PM
liloandstitchx3   i will eat animals. i will not tolerate SEEING an...   Apr 7 2005, 07:44 PM
Paradox of Life   Well then, why is fur or faux fur even neccessary?...   Apr 8 2005, 02:19 PM
InLove_x   It doesn't bother me that much. As long as the...   Apr 8 2005, 04:54 PM
gOODpIRATE   QUOTE(InLove_x @ Apr 8 2005, 2:54 PM)It doesn...   Apr 14 2005, 12:51 AM
`SWTWiNKLE3YES   that movie/whatever is sad & scary. i just had...   Apr 14 2005, 07:38 PM
yanners   i'm very much against fur. that video made me...   Apr 16 2005, 08:27 AM
XoJennaoX   I never liked fur since i saw 101 Dalmations!....   Apr 16 2005, 08:39 AM
xMayleex   It disgusts me that people can wear something that...   Apr 17 2005, 02:44 PM
sadolakced acid   there is no more debate. people are just stating ...   Apr 17 2005, 04:30 PM
monde libre   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Apr 17 2005, 4:30 PM)...   Apr 22 2005, 02:14 PM
Spirited Away   ^ And I'm inclined to agree with the both of ...   Apr 22 2005, 02:16 PM


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