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OriskybusinessO
post Jan 26 2005, 04:58 PM
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In almost every school there are people that have more money than you, or another group. I am not trying to brag or anything, but I am not poor, but I cant buy 100 dollar jeans either. I shop at Hollister and people always accuse me of being 'rich' when I cant shop at the store that owns them, Abercrombie. I wish people would stop being so mean to people that have money. Its just that the people I have talked to say that you should spend your money in other ways than buying clothes, and houses and other things. What do you guys think about the 'money and clothes and popularity' differences in high schools today?
 
 
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post Mar 3 2005, 09:17 PM
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Then you must ask what gives the rich the ability to give jobs to the working class.

You will find that the answer lies in the fact that the rich posess capital, and thus the ability to give jobs to the working class, and take some of hte money for themselves.

But then, to test the legitimacy of job-giving, one must find out where this capital comes from. Ultimately, all capital derives from the Earth, which was created for all men to use in common.

At some point in time, the capital was forcefully exploited from the commons of the Earth and put into private stock. Thus, the jobs that the rich possess in the first place are stolen property. The only solution to exploitation and the restoration of voluntary economy, therefore, is the abolition of private property.

Now, of course, there are practical problems with the abolition of private property, and it is better to live with a little exploitation than a lot of oppression, but it nonetheless does not change the fact that the capitalist system is clearly exploitative, and unproductive wealthy youth are the most exploitative of the classes.
 

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OriskybusinessO   "Rich"   Jan 26 2005, 04:58 PM
rockstermonkey   money and clothes obviously effect someone's s...   Jan 26 2005, 07:39 PM
azn_r4pf4n   QUOTE(rockstermonkey @ Jan 26 2005, 4:39 PM)m...   Jan 26 2005, 08:56 PM
rockstermonkey   Yeah. I have noticed that a ton people in my grade...   Jan 26 2005, 10:08 PM
yanners   well, i guess since i go to an international schoo...   Jan 27 2005, 09:42 AM
pandamonium   that same thing happens to me, i shop at clothes s...   Jan 27 2005, 09:59 AM
racoons > you   i miss abercrombie... thank the lord for internet ...   Jan 27 2005, 12:06 PM
Frankie   in school, the "rich" people are the ...   Jan 27 2005, 06:32 PM
i_screwed_bam   QUOTE(Frankie_08 @ Jan 27 2005, 6:32 PM)in sc...   Jan 30 2005, 10:33 PM
sammi rules you   QUOTE(i_screwed_bam @ Jan 30 2005, 9:33 PM)to...   Jan 31 2005, 12:44 PM
OriskybusinessO   QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jan 31 2005, 9:44 AM)...   Jan 31 2005, 04:43 PM
lAzN YiN YanGl   psh i go to jcpenny, find some 2.77 stickers and t...   Jan 27 2005, 06:43 PM
sporadic   There have always been social standings, and there...   Jan 28 2005, 02:27 AM
Weird addiction   u know what i do, i go to normal shops buy flashy ...   Jan 30 2005, 10:00 AM
sammi rules you   the clothes thing does interfere with your popular...   Jan 30 2005, 12:02 PM
christiee_nax   the thing between rich and poor will always be the...   Jan 30 2005, 11:47 PM
sammi rules you   hollister, abercrombie, and hot topic are all owne...   Jan 31 2005, 10:35 PM
OriskybusinessO   actually i just went on their site and it said abe...   Feb 1 2005, 08:11 PM
goofipinay   i wear NewYork Lerner....NY brand clothes....lol n...   Feb 1 2005, 11:00 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   people judge others if they are poor and rich depe...   Feb 2 2005, 12:33 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(aznxboredxperson @ Feb 2 2005, 12:33 AM...   Feb 2 2005, 12:42 AM
william   at our school.. the "popular" kids seem ...   Feb 2 2005, 11:44 PM
xGlovex   i hate it..but people consider me rich. just becau...   Feb 3 2005, 12:22 PM
sammi rules you   QUOTE(xGlovex @ Feb 3 2005, 11:22 AM)i hate i...   Feb 5 2005, 12:10 AM
OriskybusinessO   QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Feb 4 2005, 9:10 PM)u...   Feb 5 2005, 11:07 AM
william   QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Feb 4 2005, 9:10 PM)u...   Feb 10 2005, 09:48 PM
OriskybusinessO   yea... ok well, i used to live in a country club n...   Feb 4 2005, 08:04 PM
xcaitlinx   im considered "upper class" because of m...   Feb 5 2005, 01:32 AM
Kriegsgefangene   QUOTE(OriskybusinessO @ Jan 26 2005, 4:58 PM)...   Feb 5 2005, 11:44 AM
OriskybusinessO   Well, if you wear hollister or A+F at my school, y...   Feb 8 2005, 05:47 PM
Baku   I wore what i wanted to wear in high school and no...   Feb 8 2005, 07:17 PM
mysticalazxn   i'm p o o o r. that why i use money wisely...   Feb 9 2005, 04:54 PM
sammi rules you   QUOTE(mysticalazxn @ Feb 9 2005, 3:54 PM)i...   Feb 10 2005, 09:43 PM
auroradude   ditto i dont get everything i want; i work for it ...   Feb 10 2005, 10:06 PM
wind&fire   QUOTE(auroradude @ Feb 11 2005, 2:06 PM)ditto...   Feb 10 2005, 10:12 PM
nevernothere   Heh.. I'm a poor Asian guy living in the middl...   Feb 13 2005, 09:36 AM
OriskybusinessO   I know! I wont get a car until i go to college...   Feb 13 2005, 01:39 PM
Alternativemado   Well, i am not rich but people think that I am bec...   Feb 17 2005, 09:21 PM
angel-roh   Well I know that, I don't argue. Well yeah I e...   Feb 24 2005, 04:49 PM
monde libre   my school is kind of strange.. it's very cliqu...   Feb 25 2005, 11:29 AM
afkisses92   I guess my family is well off. We're not filth...   Feb 25 2005, 02:45 PM
f4113n   people generalize too much, they automatically ass...   Mar 2 2005, 04:06 PM
yukichan   that doesnt really happen at my skool...we have un...   Mar 2 2005, 10:08 PM
Aesirus   Rich kids are bourgeoisie pigs living off the labo...   Mar 3 2005, 05:17 PM
OriskybusinessO   QUOTE(Aesirus @ Mar 3 2005, 2:17 PM)Rich kids...   Mar 3 2005, 07:36 PM
Aesirus   QUOTE(OriskybusinessO @ Mar 3 2005, 8:36 PM)t...   Mar 3 2005, 08:55 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Aesirus @ Mar 3 2005, 8:55 PM)Want to d...   Mar 3 2005, 09:00 PM
rockstermonkey   ^absolutely. I mean, saying things like that doesn...   Mar 3 2005, 08:43 PM
Aesirus   They take it from the people who do work, i.e. pro...   Mar 3 2005, 09:03 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Aesirus @ Mar 3 2005, 9:03 PM)They take...   Mar 3 2005, 09:09 PM
Aesirus   That's right. Exploitation is something done i...   Mar 3 2005, 09:09 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Aesirus @ Mar 3 2005, 9:09 PM)That...   Mar 3 2005, 09:14 PM
Aesirus   Then you must ask what gives the rich the ability ...   Mar 3 2005, 09:17 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Aesirus @ Mar 3 2005, 9:17 PM)Thus, the...   Mar 3 2005, 09:19 PM
Aesirus   No, all capital goods are essentially stolen, sinc...   Mar 3 2005, 09:23 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Aesirus @ Mar 3 2005, 9:23 PM)No, all c...   Mar 3 2005, 09:26 PM
Aesirus   The early governments that set in motion the prope...   Mar 3 2005, 09:31 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Aesirus @ Mar 3 2005, 9:31 PM)The early...   Mar 3 2005, 11:32 PM
Aesirus   But the concept of capital property in the first p...   Mar 4 2005, 06:57 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Aesirus @ Mar 4 2005, 6:57 AM)But the c...   Mar 4 2005, 10:30 AM
Aesirus   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Mar 4 2005, 11:30 AM)Su...   Mar 4 2005, 02:55 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Aesirus @ Mar 4 2005, 2:55 PM)Certainly...   Mar 4 2005, 03:30 PM
Jorge   my parents might have a large income, but i don...   Mar 4 2005, 02:22 PM
Aesirus   Many of the rich do not administer their companies...   Mar 4 2005, 04:05 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Aesirus @ Mar 4 2005, 4:05 PM)Many of t...   Mar 4 2005, 09:03 PM
OriskybusinessO   Yea, i'd love to debate it with ya. I dont mea...   Mar 4 2005, 06:08 PM
Aesirus   Most people in the middle-class have high paying j...   Mar 4 2005, 06:25 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(Aesirus @ Mar 4 2005, 5:25 PM)Most peop...   Mar 4 2005, 06:39 PM
Aesirus   Capital goods belong to all people because they de...   Mar 4 2005, 06:41 PM
sadolakced acid   if a person spends thier time to dig a rock out of...   Mar 4 2005, 06:44 PM
Aesirus   About the horse, that's right. They should be ...   Mar 4 2005, 06:48 PM
sadolakced acid   of course might makes right. who remebers the arm...   Mar 4 2005, 07:08 PM
largosama   How ever did Debate about shopping at "rich...   Mar 4 2005, 07:25 PM
darkphyre   Aesirus sounds like a Marxist who has never actual...   Mar 4 2005, 09:24 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(darkphyre @ Mar 4 2005, 9:24 PM)Aesirus...   Mar 4 2005, 09:32 PM
darkphyre   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Mar 4 2005, 9:32 PM) T...   Mar 4 2005, 10:04 PM
Aesirus   QUOTE(darkphyre @ Mar 4 2005, 11:04 PM)And if...   Mar 4 2005, 10:16 PM
Aesirus   QUOTE(darkphyre @ Mar 4 2005, 10:24 PM)Aesiru...   Mar 4 2005, 09:53 PM
Aesirus   Bad servers   Mar 4 2005, 10:09 PM
Aesirus   QUOTE(darkphyre @ Mar 4 2005, 10:24 PM)Aesiru...   Mar 4 2005, 10:14 PM
darkphyre   Why does land belong to all people?   Mar 4 2005, 10:52 PM
Whitey   being rich is very complecated hears how: you all...   Mar 30 2005, 09:10 PM
OriskybusinessO   QUOTE(Whitey @ Mar 30 2005, 6:10 PM)all the p...   Apr 1 2005, 08:34 PM
monde libre   QUOTE(Whitey @ Mar 30 2005, 9:10 PM)all the p...   Apr 3 2005, 05:40 PM
OriskybusinessO   QUOTE(perplexism @ Apr 3 2005, 2:40 PM)man, i...   Apr 4 2005, 03:37 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(OriskybusinessO @ Apr 4 2005, 3:37 PM)H...   Apr 5 2005, 07:21 PM
mona lisa   well, the same goes for poor people. people with m...   Apr 3 2005, 03:54 PM
monde libre   you know very well that people don't just get ...   Apr 4 2005, 04:35 PM
OriskybusinessO   well thats why no one should commit crimes and be ...   Apr 4 2005, 05:11 PM
monde libre   there will always be uneducated people; that's...   Apr 4 2005, 06:32 PM
OriskybusinessO   QUOTE(perplexism @ Apr 4 2005, 3:32 PM)it...   Apr 5 2005, 06:35 PM
monde libre   QUOTE(OriskybusinessO @ Apr 5 2005, 6:35 PM)A...   Apr 5 2005, 09:04 PM
OriskybusinessO   example please   Apr 5 2005, 08:05 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(OriskybusinessO @ Apr 5 2005, 8:05 PM)e...   Apr 5 2005, 10:41 PM
OriskybusinessO   QUOTEi said that one more year of high school is n...   Apr 6 2005, 03:52 PM
BrandonSaunders   I've been reading the replies in this thread a...   Apr 5 2005, 09:43 PM
sammi rules you   ^ you can't just pick up and move to a country...   Apr 6 2005, 04:47 PM
wounded   QUOTE(OriskybusinessO @ Jan 26 2005, 4:58 PM)...   Apr 6 2005, 05:01 PM
tmauze   whoever said "it's your own damn fault...   Apr 6 2005, 09:43 PM
tmauze   oh my goodness i go to a very materialistic school...   Apr 6 2005, 09:45 PM
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