Labeling, Is stereotyping fair? Options

[Paradox of Life]

Calling someone a goth or punk or prep or goody-two-shoes, etc. Is it really fair to judge people? Or is it just an organized classification of people that could fall in those catagories? Is it fair to say that all are the same? Is it being racist in any way? Please post your opinions.

[OriskybusinessO]

ok. i've read all your posts and you get off topic, unintentionally, but you don't notice it.

you aren't even debating about the topic. all you are doing is promoting what you think is right. you're saying that the way you dress and stuff is better than other types of people.

get on topic, kiddo!

yea, i know... i should probably stop talking about it but if i do they'll think ive run out of things to say, and they are right, but i havent... I would like to stop 'fighting', its not really debating anymore, but like i said before...


... What the hell? People who dress in all black, have blue hair or multiple facial piercings aren't idiots o_o; You can't call someone an idiot because of what they look like. That's really unfair and that was the whole topic of debate. Judging someone by how they dress, etc is unfair. I guess it's okay to label as a reflex and as just a quick assumption. But I don't think it's fair to stereotype as all goths smoke and cut and all preps are stupid and dimwitted blondes.

I know that i wouldnt want to be friends with someone who dresses all black hase peicings etc etc. To me they look stupid. Its not easy to look at. And judging someone by what they look like, everyone does it, and the people that dress in all black dont think that people do, they are the ones that say "it doesnt matter what you look like, people shouldnt judge you like that" WELL WAKE UP BECAUSE THEY DO. When you are going into a job interview looking like that they ARENT going to hire you. But mc donalds will.


I have not seen a single person dressing in all black, etc working for a McDonalds or cleaning the toilets or doing any uneducated minimum wage job. I have however seen people like that getting rich and leading extremely successful lives like Slayer, Good Charlotte, Metallica, Simple Plan, Green Day. It's complicated and it takes a lot of hard work traveling and performing all around the world. And it takes intelligence to be able to master an instrument and they do have musical talent. I dress in all black and would fall into your category of "idiot" and I won my school spelling bee and I'm the 11th best speller in the 35,000 kids of the district. I play violin and piano and I've gotten many art awards.
And some people just like the style.
Alright, that just sums up everything I've wanted to say for the last 30 posts.

Thats because they wear uniforms... and i have seen people like that doing tohese jobs. Theres another point, everyone says thoese people can start bands and get rich, It IS hard to do that, to become famous and keep it going. But that is the only thing you people have said so far. I dont see any of thoese people becoming lawyers, doctors etc. And i didnt mean idiot, grade-wise, i meant it is a bad move for them to dress themselves that way and lead their lives that way.


i think that in a way, most teens actually want to be stereotyped and labeled. why else would so many people embrace goth/punk/emo/prep/whatever culture so fully? they want to develop a distinct personality while feeling as if they belong to a community.

This is so true.


Maybe people who live in cheap ass places succeeded in knowing love for each other and raising a family that appreciates the little things that the rest of the world take for granted.
Success is trivial because like beauty, it is in the eye of the beholder. I could careless about a millionaire if he/she doesn't know the first thing about community and respect. I'd say that they are successful in society, but not successful in being human.
I used to live in a barn. That how poor my family was, but we weren't slackers. Never that. I hate when people assume that all poor people put themselves into that position. Have you ever thought that maybe they were born into poverty and is struggling to get out of it? Some are more fortunate in their endeavor, but the opportunity may have never presented itself to others. If you call that slacking and I'll call you naive.

Yes, but if they are struggling, dont you think they would like to get out of struggling? the thing is in this country, majority rules. And if everyone else takes thoese things for granted, its not worth it doing so.
I am sorry you had to live in a barn, maybe they should've gotten a job, theres so many options, go back to school, go to college, etc.

Do you work for your Dad? It's your Dad's fault that he doesn't know how to hire competent help. What does that say about your Dad?

No, i dont work for my dad, his business is out of state. Its not my dads fault that only thoese people apply.

Did you even read my post? Let me bold it for you

Succeeding isn't being a movie star, or being the richest or hottest person alive. It varies with each person so I could have a million piercings and still have succeeded.

I didnt say you had to become a movie star etc. just get a job. And then you say become a rock star, "...richest or hottest person..."


OriskybusinessO, may i point out that hot topic, where "those people" shop at, is owned by the same people as abercrombie. that said, hot topic is quite expensive, as is abercrombie (apparently these people want LOTS of money). if these people are such poor slackers, how do they afford such expensive clothes?

thought i might point that out.


I didnt say they had to start shopping at abercrombie. Hot topic isnt that expensive anyway... and i didnt say they all shop at hot topic, it was an example. That store is targeted toward high school students Who mainly have there mommis and daddies buy their clothes. Im mainly talking about adults 20, etc.



yea, i know... i should probably stop talking about it butif i do they'll think ive run out of things to say, and they are right, but i havent... I would like to stop 'fighting', its not really debating anymore, but like i said before...

[Spirited Away]

Yes, but if they are struggling, dont you think they would like to get out of struggling? the thing is in this country, majority rules. And if everyone else takes thoese things for granted, its not worth it doing so.
I am sorry you had to live in a barn, maybe they should've gotten a job, theres so many options, go back to school, go to college, etc.

No, i dont work for my dad, his business is out of state. Its not my dads fault that only thoese people apply.

... NAIVE. You think that if I want to stop being poor I can go out to the world and find a job, and poof, I get one???? If that is reality, then in reality poverty simply does not exist.

Get it?

As I have said before, there are those who are lucky when they try and those who are not so lucky. We may try our best to do things we want in life but that doesn't mean we'll succeed at it.

If I still live in a barn do you think I could afford internet access and talk to you right now? Uh, no. I HAVE ALREADY explained that there are those who are lucky, like my family, and those who are not lucky and must still be in poverty.

You know what I think? I think you're too sheltered from what's out there in the world. It's not your fault though, but it is your fault that you can't find it in you to be compassionate and sympathize with fellow human beings. NO ONE wants to be poor but circumstances may force a person to be poor.

If those people who works for your Dad are so lazy, they wouldn't bother to work for you Dad. Why not just steal from your Dad instead of working? IF your Dad cannot hire competent workers then IT IS HIS FAULT. Who says your Dad MUST hire everyone who applies? Do they stick a gun to his head and force him? No. Then it's your Dad's fault that he can't judge a person. Period.