Hot Topic Kids, posers, or actually hardxcore? Options

[SoaDyPOP]

I bet there's been 259208 topics about this already, but I'm too lazy to look through all billion and one threads.

Hot Topic customers - called posers, freaks, goths, punks, and Hot Topic Kids. So, what are they?

They're no different than the preps, emos, indies, gangsters, skaters, burnouts, brains, jocks, or anybody else. They shop at a store.

I absolutely hate how people call them posers. Posers are people who try to be something that they aren't. When the Hot Topic kids deem themselves goth without taking on the rituals, attitude, and style of gothic people, then they are posers.

In all reality, these 'posers' are a group of their own. Why don't they adopt a new name and drop the poser label? It would probably lessen all this controversy. It would also tell people more about their fashion sense, then saying 'poser.' Poser could be anything - you're trying to be a cowboy, trying to be an emo, trying to be a jock, trying to be a punk, trying to be a goth, trying to be Bob Saget (although, I don't know why anybody would try to be him). Poser is a very generalized and vague word. We need to tighten this up a bit.


I'm gonna tackle 2 more things in this post, actually. I'm on a roll.

1. Punk is not a fashion. Punk is a lifestyle (attitude, behavior, and way of thinking/belief system). To be a punk, you don't need to dress like one. To dress like one, you don't need to be one, but don't say you are one cos you've got plaid pants on. That does not work. That's when somebody is a poser.

2. Punk music. I bet there's countless threads about punk music, as well, but I don't really care. I want my views heard and I want them heard now, whether y'all like it or not.

Some say punk music isn't New Found Glory, Simple Plan, Good Charlotte, Yellowcard, and/or Green Day. Those people are wrong.

There's more than one part to the punk genre. There's pop/nu, hardcore, political, scream-o, street, thrash, and psychobilly and rockabilly can even be linked to punk.

Next time you bash on New Found Glory, Simple Plan, Good Charlotte, Yellowcard, and/or Green Day, make sure you do it well. Those bands are terrible...I mean...

Next time you bash on one of those pop punk bands and say that they're not punk, think twice. They are indeed punk. Also, if you're going to make fun of those bands and say they're not punk, you gotta back it up with some punk bands that you listen to, and Linkin Park does not count. Linkin Park isn't even remotely punk.

If you read this whole thing, thank you.

[Paradox of Life]

Thank you for making this topic! I read the whole post (I'm usually to lazy to read long posts even though I make long posts @_@). With all these new rules for stereotypes like goth and punk I don't know where I am. Can I be able to skateboard and be called goth? Can I shop at Hot Topic and be called punk? What the hell is going on!?
Hot Topic is a store for people who like that style. Wearing black can only make people assume your personality. If you're wearing clothes from Hot Topic, I think people can safely assume that you don't pass out flowers and Valentine's cards and lollipops while skipping down school hallways.
Now before I get off topic... Poser is such a complicated term. For someone to call someone else a poser, they have to know what the other person is trying to pose as. You can tell if someone is a poser if they are constantly yelling out their stereotype. It's really hard to justify that you aren't a poser.
Labeling is making everything a little bit harder because people are feeling obligated to be in a certain group and when you're in a certain group you feel obligated to do what everyone else does in your group. When you're doing something that doesn't feel right to you, but you're doing it just for the sake of the stereotype's demands, that's when you're being a poser.