Hot Topic Kids, posers, or actually hardxcore? Options

[SoaDyPOP]

I bet there's been 259208 topics about this already, but I'm too lazy to look through all billion and one threads.

Hot Topic customers - called posers, freaks, goths, punks, and Hot Topic Kids. So, what are they?

They're no different than the preps, emos, indies, gangsters, skaters, burnouts, brains, jocks, or anybody else. They shop at a store.

I absolutely hate how people call them posers. Posers are people who try to be something that they aren't. When the Hot Topic kids deem themselves goth without taking on the rituals, attitude, and style of gothic people, then they are posers.

In all reality, these 'posers' are a group of their own. Why don't they adopt a new name and drop the poser label? It would probably lessen all this controversy. It would also tell people more about their fashion sense, then saying 'poser.' Poser could be anything - you're trying to be a cowboy, trying to be an emo, trying to be a jock, trying to be a punk, trying to be a goth, trying to be Bob Saget (although, I don't know why anybody would try to be him). Poser is a very generalized and vague word. We need to tighten this up a bit.


I'm gonna tackle 2 more things in this post, actually. I'm on a roll.

1. Punk is not a fashion. Punk is a lifestyle (attitude, behavior, and way of thinking/belief system). To be a punk, you don't need to dress like one. To dress like one, you don't need to be one, but don't say you are one cos you've got plaid pants on. That does not work. That's when somebody is a poser.

2. Punk music. I bet there's countless threads about punk music, as well, but I don't really care. I want my views heard and I want them heard now, whether y'all like it or not.

Some say punk music isn't New Found Glory, Simple Plan, Good Charlotte, Yellowcard, and/or Green Day. Those people are wrong.

There's more than one part to the punk genre. There's pop/nu, hardcore, political, scream-o, street, thrash, and psychobilly and rockabilly can even be linked to punk.

Next time you bash on New Found Glory, Simple Plan, Good Charlotte, Yellowcard, and/or Green Day, make sure you do it well. Those bands are terrible...I mean...

Next time you bash on one of those pop punk bands and say that they're not punk, think twice. They are indeed punk. Also, if you're going to make fun of those bands and say they're not punk, you gotta back it up with some punk bands that you listen to, and Linkin Park does not count. Linkin Park isn't even remotely punk.

If you read this whole thing, thank you.

[NativeTomahawk]

Alright all I have to say is that people who go and shop at Hot Topic are varied. They can be "posers" or "wannabe"'s but what really get's me going. It's these people who go
into Hot Topic and see the clothes, and think that dressing the part will make them "Punk" or "Goth" or "Different" but it doesnt. When everyone has that little piece of them to
be different. So let me give you an example. Say it's a rich neighborhood where the kids go with what people think is shocking, or will make the parents kinda upset. So some kids are strolling through the mall and a new store has opened. They decide to go into it, and they see these weird clothes, hearing some screaming on the speakers above them. They look at each other, all a little unsure, they look down at their current clothes, trying to be ghetto fasionable or whatever. They decide this would make their parents a little uneasy seeing them dress like this. They then buy alot of the clothing in the store. The next day when they are driving around in their hummer, or somthing they smile to themselves, thinking their going to make a big impression in the community. When they step out of the car and go into their school they see other kids wearing the exact same clothes. They are in shock. What a wonderous thing." I don't think that made much sense, but in my mind it did. But most people do this, thinking it will make them look extreme. When people like me, who wear generic/no name clothing because we can't afford it or have to spend our money on more important things, get called posers. It's like what the hell? Did that rich kid who changed his look in one day just call me a poser. I'm still a student and all the time I see kids who are prep one day, then over the weekend they are dressing from Hot Topic. They call me a poser because I dress mainly in black, but I spend my money I earn at work and whatnot when i'm with friends, and on my girlfriend. It's quite annoying when I've been listening to speed/thrash/hardcore metal and people are calling me a poser, when they listen to Good Charlotte, or other mainstream bands, not to badmouth slipknot, but I only wear those shirts on occasion when i'm having a bad day. And also, these quick transformers say Slipknot or MM is the most hardcore band and is needed to be listened to to be goth. I say what the hell? What happened to The Cure, The Bauhaus and other 80's bands that defined the Goth subculture. I'm not saying i'm a goth, because i'm not a fan of most of that type of music, but I do like to wear alot of black clothing, and I buy band shirts to support the artist.
I mean I have a few pairs of Tripp pants/shorts, and a pair of Kick ass boots, but I don't go out and spend every cent on them thinking i'll look hardcore. I wear what I want, and alot of the people known as "posers" say the same thing, but it's bullshit because they're wearing the same shit everyone else is wearing. Remember when you say you're part of a subculture, it's about the music/attitude/behavior of yourself to be part of that subculture, also if you say you're "Goth" or "Punk" then you aren't because if you truly are you will be recognized not have to tell people. Also, to the people who transform themselve in a weekend from 'Prep" to "Goth", Hot Topic is shocking as much anymore unless you live in a suburban community with no communication to the outside world, or hicksville. Also Hot Topic isn't underground it's quite mainstream, I say this, because if yuo didn't know, Hot Topic is a branch of The Gap. That's right The Gap owns and runs Hot Topic. Enjoy your Day/Night, and rememember, It's all about the music, not about the dress.

Sorry about the earlier signature.