do you think this is sexist-, for women to be painted nude but not men |
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 Aug 22 2005, 07:28 PM
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 Always Move Fast  Group: Member Posts: 167 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 192,635  |
ok i know this is a weird topic to talk about. I am in art class right now and arguments have been going on and on and on about this topic. I just want to get different views. Lets now screw this up and act all silly and everything please.
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Aug 22 2005, 07:31 PM
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Always Move Fast Group: Member Posts: 167 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 192,635 |
whoops sorry i posted so much...my computer.
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Aug 22 2005, 07:34 PM
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 *scribble scribble* Group: Member Posts: 1,314 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 119,610 |
it's not sexist. it depends on what the artist wants. if someone wants to paint nude men, then no one would really care. it's just that not many people do/have.
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| *disco infiltrator* |
Aug 22 2005, 08:21 PM
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It might be just me, but I think the woman's naked body is..prettier than the guy's. Penises are really ugly.
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Aug 22 2005, 09:20 PM
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 dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
^ not just you
but anyways; you know guys are painted naked too. at least the greek style ones... |
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Aug 22 2005, 09:24 PM
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 Call me Elsie Mae Group: Member Posts: 936 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 207,655 |
hmm yes i always wondered why there's alot of girls nude instead of guys..
maybe it's a little difficult.. well.. i duno i'm not an artist.. so i wouldn't knoe.. |
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Aug 22 2005, 09:25 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 893 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 68,217 |
It's not sexist; it's just the artist's opinion on which figure looks physically better...the same way it wouldn't be opinionated if I were to sketch a green apple or a red one.
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| *kryogenix* |
Aug 23 2005, 08:32 AM
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Aug 23 2005, 03:20 PM
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 My name's Katt. Nice to meet you! Group: Member Posts: 3,826 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 93,674 |
So you'd rather see male genitalia displayed more often?
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Aug 23 2005, 05:51 PM
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 Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
if i'm writing a book and the best point of view i can write in is that of a female so my books are pretty much from a female's pov, am I sexist? no. if i'm an artist and i see a certain beauty in one model but not the other, guess which model i'm going to paint?
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Aug 24 2005, 01:39 PM
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 unify and defeat... divide and crumble Group: Member Posts: 2,759 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 6,379 |
There are plenty of nude male subjects in art, I know I've studied a shit load of them. It all depends on the artist's personal opinion of which subject is more in their interest, or they find pleasing to paint. Of course, personally I find the female body more pleasing to the eye, because of the way the curves are placed, and it's a much softer figure. However, I don't mind seeing the chiseled figure of a nude male in a painting once in a while either. Basically, there's no discrimination in art subject matter, because it's like asking "Why would people rather paint flowers than dust bunnies?"
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| *RiC3xBoy* |
Aug 24 2005, 02:13 PM
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Sexist is a bit extreme, but I would still say women are more preferred.
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Aug 24 2005, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(headphones @ Aug 22 2005, 8:21 PM) It might be just me, but I think the woman's naked body is..prettier than the guy's. Penises are really ugly.  yeah that's exactly what i was thinking. |
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Aug 24 2005, 09:45 PM
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 I love Havasupai Group: Member Posts: 1,040 Joined: Jul 2005 Member No: 163,878 |
QUOTE(mai_z @ Aug 24 2005, 2:39 PM) There are plenty of nude male subjects in art, I know I've studied a shit load of them. It all depends on the artist's personal opinion of which subject is more in their interest, or they find pleasing to paint. Of course, personally I find the female body more pleasing to the eye, because of the way the curves are placed, and it's a much softer figure. However, I don't mind seeing the chiseled figure of a nude male in a painting once in a while either. Basically, there's no discrimination in art subject matter, because it's like asking "Why would people rather paint flowers than dust bunnies?" Well said. Sexisism is a function of stereotyping and discrimination. The choice of subject matter is not inherently sexist. |
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Aug 24 2005, 10:39 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
nudes are mostly renassaince. in the renaisance, (sexistly) artists were male. males generally wished to appear to think females are
ergo, female nudes. to which i have no complaint, but there you go. |
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Aug 25 2005, 03:37 PM
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 Don't worry guys, size doesn't matter...to lesbians Group: Member Posts: 2,444 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,066 |
QUOTE(GEEK iN THE PiNK @ Aug 22 2005, 7:28 PM) ok i know this is a weird topic to talk about. I am in art class right now and arguments have been going on and on and on about this topic. I just want to get different views. Lets now screw this up and act all silly and everything please. First of all, many men have been painted nude. In fact, men themselves were sculpted nude. Second of all, when a woman is painted nude, it doesn't mean something about sexism but a meaning of "art". It either meant something about how beautiful a woman is, or how their role in earth and history is important.. it really depends on the artist. |
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Aug 27 2005, 06:45 PM
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 Randomness rules Group: Member Posts: 128 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 64,288 |
if u think about it, a penis is ugly when compared to the rest of the body
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Aug 30 2005, 09:05 PM
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 Sing to Me Group: Member Posts: 1,825 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 10,808 |
^ that's true. it's been proven in studies that people prefer female bodies more (not that male bodies aren't beautiful in their way) because of the well rounded proportions. i mean, if you think about it, a woman has all her privates bascially covered up while a man has his penis just hanging there.
don't sweat it guys. i love your bodies. =) |
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Aug 30 2005, 09:38 PM
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 L!ckitySplit Group: Member Posts: 4,325 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 129,329 |
its not sexist, womens bodies are considered beautiful and graceful.
and mens are well... not lol. it is wired how its like taboo though, to show a naked man. im talking about how we see naked women all the time in some R movies but u practically NEVER see a naked man. but hey im not complaining  maybe cause attractive girls usually have nice bodies also in the movie industry. but attrctive men may be attractive but might have a small winkerdoodles haha, i dunno
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Sep 1 2005, 09:03 PM
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 cB Assassin Group: Official Member Posts: 10,147 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,672 |
Men do get painted nude, I see plenty of them..
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Sep 1 2005, 10:09 PM
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 cheeeesy like theres no tomorrow Group: Member Posts: 3,316 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 37,142 |
i think women nude are more beautiful nude, now im not saying just because they are women, but women are more curvier then men, they are more beauitfully structured. they are vulupcious, and i am saying this from an artistic point of view, not purverted.
but i have seen alot of muscular men painted nude, but not showning their penises. and believe me i have been to a lot of art museums. |
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Sep 1 2005, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(headphones @ Aug 22 2005, 6:21 PM) It might be just me, but I think the woman's naked body is..prettier than the guy's. Penises are really ugly. I'd have to agree with you on that as well. But there are some parts of the male body I do like to see. (; The female body is seen as a work of art. The male body really isn't. There are nude paintings of men, but I actually see more nude men in sculptures than woman. It's just what the artist sees as beautiful. |
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Sep 2 2005, 08:38 AM
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Its completely up to the artist.
And anyway, its well known that women are beautiful, and men are hairy and lumpy and shouldn't be seen by the light of day. |
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Sep 2 2005, 08:41 AM
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 RAWR. Group: Member Posts: 2,585 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 102,641 |
QUOTE(headphones @ Aug 22 2005, 8:21 PM) It might be just me, but I think the woman's naked body is..prettier than the guy's. Penises are really ugly. yeah exactly. Besides, I've seen a lot of nudes with men before. But overall they just arent as pretty. Females have loads and loads of curves. Soft round shapes are naturally more appealing. |
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Sep 3 2005, 06:14 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
you're right... this is sexist.
people who paint nude men should automatically be elligible for a grant from the government to subsidise thier art, this way, a 50/50 balance can be achived, and diversity is wanted by all. (sounds absurd? go ressurect the affirmative action thread.) |
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Sep 3 2005, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Aug 24 2005, 3:13 PM) Sexist is a bit extreme, but I would still say women are more preferred. Yeeees. I agree. |
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Sep 3 2005, 07:43 PM
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Don't worry guys, size doesn't matter...to lesbians Group: Member Posts: 2,444 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,066 |
Women being painted nude is like a compliment to how much they admire their body and how it's better than a man's (depending on the artist) but like I said before, many dudes have been painted nude.
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Sep 3 2005, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(headphones @ Aug 23 2005, 3:21 AM) It might be just me, but I think the woman's naked body is..prettier than the guy's. Penises are really ugly. LOL! darn, 1st woman i heard saying that LOL! maybe you'll ask your BF/husband to buy a dildo for you if you dont like how his "thingy" looks like LOL!.so darn fsking funny. LOL! QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Aug 24 2005, 9:13 PM) Sexist is a bit extreme, but I would still say women are more preferred. //edit LOL!, Men's prefer ladys, and the Lady's prefers to paint the Men's ! QUOTE(karamelle @ Sep 2 2005, 3:41 PM) yeah exactly. Besides, I've seen a lot of nudes with men before. But overall they just arent as pretty. Females have loads and loads of curves. Soft round shapes are naturally more appealing. //edit LOL!,If i'll explain your organic part's NON-FOTOGENICS,you'll hate yourself because your a Woman,an you'll want to be a male for sure,even that Woman's body is more "appealing" it has more deffects then Male's body,as someone said before she doesnt like how Male's "Thingy" looks like, but that's the only Male's Body deffect can have (depends from person to person), or for what you girls go to Night Clubs to watch Male Strippers?LOL!,but yeah that's the Woman and she is always hiding under her fingers.shame on you Woman,because the male is that one who make's you feel like a Woman. //end DOH!.lol |
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Sep 3 2005, 09:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 2,746 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 17,125 |
Claudel. Just stop. Stop, and hide under a rock. Never come out.
Women do not have defects. How can you even muster up the courage to say that? Do you just want to be beat on? The only sexist thing in this conversation is Claudel. My god. One day, someone is going to shoot you for talking like that. |
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Sep 3 2005, 09:30 PM
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 It eats you, starting with your bottom. Group: Member Posts: 1,999 Joined: Jun 2005 Member No: 160,674 |
Actually Claudel, based on scientific knowledge, everyone grows as an xx(girl) chromisone(sp) untill a certain point. Which means you were once a girl. Plus, the y chromosone is the male part, is actually considered a deformed cell.
Beat that BIOTCH! |
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Sep 3 2005, 09:38 PM
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My name's Katt. Nice to meet you! Group: Member Posts: 3,826 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 93,674 |
Jeez.. I didn't understand a word Claudel said. You guys are amazing.
All I see is.. blah blah blah blah LOL! blah blah LOL! blah blah blah. Claudel, go educate yourself, please. |
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Sep 3 2005, 09:49 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
QUOTE(ximxjustaxgirlx @ Sep 3 2005, 9:30 PM) Actually Claudel, based on scientific knowledge, everyone grows as an xx(girl) chromisone(sp) untill a certain point. Which means you were once a girl. Plus, the y chromosone is the male part, is actually considered a deformed cell. Beat that BIOTCH! umm... no on the everyone having an xx and no on the y chromosome being a deformed cell. sorry to tell you, but those are wrong... everyone starts out with the female body structure, and testosterone changes males to look like males before they're born. the y chromosome isn't a cell. and it was considered a genetic wasteland- but that has been reversed and it is now considered the most efficient storage of genetic information on any chromosome (which is sometimes a bad thing. ) |
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Sep 3 2005, 10:44 PM
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It eats you, starting with your bottom. Group: Member Posts: 1,999 Joined: Jun 2005 Member No: 160,674 |
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 3 2005, 8:49 PM) umm... no on the everyone having an xx and no on the y chromosome being a deformed cell. sorry to tell you, but those are wrong... everyone starts out with the female body structure, and testosterone changes males to look like males before they're born. the y chromosome isn't a cell. and it was considered a genetic wasteland- but that has been reversed and it is now considered the most efficient storage of genetic information on any chromosome (which is sometimes a bad thing. ) I'm not suprised if what you said about me being worng is indeed true. The science teacher that taught that to us was a complete moron. Almost everyone failed. |
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Sep 4 2005, 11:02 AM
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yerp! Group: Member Posts: 3,489 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 66,454 |
It's not sexist. The naked body is a beautiful thing. Besides, the Statue of David is nude.
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Sep 4 2005, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(headphones @ Aug 22 2005, 9:21 PM) It might be just me, but I think the woman's naked body is..prettier than the guy's. Penises are really ugly. ppshh mine aint ugly...and well you are true girls bodies are and well its curvy and yada yada yada...and well a guys body [talking about mines, because i dont like at others]..its muscular and you know the drill...guys have bigger hands and blah |
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Sep 4 2005, 11:10 AM
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yerp! Group: Member Posts: 3,489 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 66,454 |
My my, someone is COCKy. =]
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Sep 4 2005, 11:15 AM
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M.a. x. Group: Member Posts: 1,913 Joined: Jun 2005 Member No: 148,641 |
QUOTE([f]eleeza @ Sep 4 2005, 12:10 PM) My my, someone is COCKy. =] well it is...i swear...lol...and im srwy felicia you know i <3 you...but i had to stand up for my midget soilder and male bod's |
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Sep 4 2005, 11:15 AM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 2,746 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 17,125 |
How discreet, Felicia.
  I'd make a wonderful nude scupture model. Any takers?  
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Sep 4 2005, 11:16 AM
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yerp! Group: Member Posts: 3,489 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 66,454 |
*raises hand* Pick me!!
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Sep 4 2005, 11:19 AM
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Fine, fine. I'll let you get seconds.
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Sep 4 2005, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(latinprep12 @ Sep 4 2005, 12:05 PM) ppshh mine aint ugly...and well you are true girls bodies are and well its curvy and yada yada yada...and well a guys body [talking about mines, because i dont like at others]..its muscular and you know the drill...guys have bigger hands and blah i know what you mean max, believe me. but im just sayin' artist like to draw slick figure like stuff more. haha i know mines not ugly either  and men do get painted so wtf?
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Sep 4 2005, 05:51 PM
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IT's not sexist cause no one's ever said that you CAN'T paint a nude male, it's just ppl don't want to as much because...umm, I donno I'm not an artist.
That was my in depth look at this subject
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Sep 4 2005, 05:52 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
^ yea, i don't say that i won't hire a black guy, i just don't want to.
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Sep 5 2005, 02:40 PM
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questions make me blue. Group: Member Posts: 2,608 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,796 |
i don`t think it`s racist at all. women are beautiful, of course.. haha!
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Sep 5 2005, 04:09 PM
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unify and defeat... divide and crumble Group: Member Posts: 2,759 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 6,379 |
oh my god? you're here? I thought you were gone?? [/off topic]
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Sep 5 2005, 06:55 PM
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Penises are too ugly. They're wrinkly and veiny and the top is folded over and it's gross. At least we keep our icky things hidden in little flaps.
And not just some guys' everyone's. My ex-boyfriend has a rather large, sexually attractive penis, but it's still an ugly looking thing. Cause it's a penis. |
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Sep 5 2005, 07:31 PM
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^ lmao
but it's true. They're just...ugly |
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Sep 5 2005, 08:00 PM
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 in a matter of time Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,151 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 191,357 |
Penises are ugly.
And besides, it's a fact that women can get turned on by lesbian sex and so can men. But hardly women or men get turned on by guy/guy sex. (except gay men.) Let's face it, women are just sexier. |
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Sep 5 2005, 11:53 PM
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L!ckitySplit Group: Member Posts: 4,325 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 129,329 |
the girl speaks the truth^
QUOTE(gigiopolis @ Sep 5 2005, 9:00 PM) Penises are ugly. QUOTE(headphones @ Sep 5 2005, 7:55 PM) Penises are too ugly. They're wrinkly and veiny and the top is folded over and it's gross.  :looks at penis, pats it: "its okay, Evan jr. its okay, they dont mean it"
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Sep 6 2005, 06:06 PM
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My name's Katt. Nice to meet you! Group: Member Posts: 3,826 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 93,674 |
^
 Cheer up, Evan Jr. Even though I don't get to (or want to) see you, I'm sure you're a very handsome penis.Anyway, I think the answer to "Do you think it is sexist for females to be painted nude and not males?" is BECAUSE PENISES ARE UGLY |
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Sep 6 2005, 08:34 PM
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L!ckitySplit Group: Member Posts: 4,325 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 129,329 |
 lol
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Sep 6 2005, 08:38 PM
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 Bardic Nation Group: Member Posts: 1,113 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 38,059 |
look at what seinfeld said about it. Women are a work of art. Jerry is not.
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Sep 6 2005, 08:39 PM
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Being an artist, I see it from this perspective. The male and female bodies each represent something different. The male body represents physical strength, physical power, and physical security. The female body represents spiritual strength, spiritual power, and spiritual security and beauty. Most would want to paint a female body because it is not so solid, but more with a flow like water. Male bodies are very square and lined. So I think all us ladies so take that as a compliment...unless it's porn...then it's just degrating. LoL.
It's all in symbolism! |
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Sep 6 2005, 08:40 PM
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...though...male bodies are...how should I put this...(picturing johnny depp)...beautiful! Whoot Whoot! <3 Johnny
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Sep 6 2005, 08:50 PM
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L!ckitySplit Group: Member Posts: 4,325 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 129,329 |
^exactly what you said (not about johnny depp, but about the women lol)
yay for artist! when i sketch a person, there something about drawing females that is more enjoyable. its not that men are more difficult. its just women are...more artistic. |
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